Four new principals named; fifth vacancy opens up

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The Barrow County Board of Education on May 23 filled four vacant principal positions by promoting two assistant principals and by hiring two new administrators from other Georgia systems. However, a fifth principal position opened up at the same called meeting, when the BOE accepted the resignation of Jeb Gregory, the support services director and principal of the Barrow County Alternative School.

Also leaving the system are Dorann Mansberger, the assistant principal of Apalachee High School; Dennis King, the school system’s plant operations director, and more than two dozen additional employees who worked mostly in the classroom.

The school board discussed the personnel actions in a closed session preceding the 6:30 p.m. commencement exercises for Barrow County College and Career Academy.

The board came out of the closed meeting and took two votes, one to name Leigh Sears as the new principal of Russell Middle School, and the other to approve the remaining list of personnel actions.

The votes were split up because BOE member Bill Bramlett is the brother of Sears and had to abstain from the vote. Rickey Bailey also abstained but did not explain his reason. The second vote on the other personnel actions was unanimous.

School superintendent Wanda Creel said after the meeting that the four schools' governance teams recommended all four of the principal appointments, and she concurred with their recommendations.

The new principal of Yargo Elementary School is Diane Bresson, an assistant principal at County Line Elementary School.

The new principal of County Line Elementary School is Jeff Koch, a high school assistant principal in Bartow County.

The new principal of Statham Elementary School is Swade Huff, a middle school principal from Fulton County.

The school system’s notice of personnel actions did not disclose the reason for each employee’s separation or the employees' positions or job locations. These were the names on the list: Pamela Dollar, Haley DerCola, Ryan Free, David Ly, Lisa Pinner, Vanessa Woeste, Tamara York, Shoshana Rowell, Anita Fulford, William Harrell, Benjamin Highfield, Shelly Jenkins, Kathleen Paige Cole, Kristina Little, Samara Calvin, Jeffrey White, Lissa Korasick, Jennifer Hintze, Megan Alessi, Joel Bacon, Leslie Whitehead-O’Neal, Mavis Shreve, Carolyn Van Gallera, Michelle Maioli, Melanie Perry, Michelle Sidner and Kimberly Smith.

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#1 Anonymous on 05/24/12 at 12:02 PM [Reply]

no not david ly he was the beat teacher we will miss you

#1.1 Jack Schitt on 06/06/12 at 04:08 PM [Reply]

David's gone, no LY? Get it? Really though, I think we should keep Creel around just for entertainment purposes. Every time she takes the podium and breaks into song, I darn near wet myself laughing. You pay big bucks at comedy clubs for this kind of funny! I have to keep my asthma inhaler handy at her meetings in case the little songbird in her decides to come out!

#2 Fortitude on 05/24/12 at 01:05 PM [Reply]

Alot of seperations in trouble economic times, just shows how Creel and her "cronies" are destrying our county. BOE needs to get rid of her and find someone else

#2.1 Anonymous on 05/24/12 at 03:05 PM [Reply]

Yes Barrow County needs to clean house and get new people who are for the schools of Barrow County! These kids need a good education and they are Barrow's future. Creel needs to go.

#3 Paige Mackie on 05/24/12 at 01:33 PM [Reply]

The BOE members are the ones vitingbon all this crap along with the school governance teams, yet everyone continues to blame Dr. Creel! Wow if only you people could read!!! She really doesn't make the decisions, she is just they scape goat so everyone else continues to look good to the public and all because they are elected officials where she is not!!! Really people, check up on things before you react to what the Board members want you to believe!!

#3.1 howie on 05/24/12 at 01:43 PM [Reply]

I do not believe that the BOE are using her as a scape goat. She is the one responsible for the operation of the county's school system. The governance teams were chosen by her, therefore one could only assume that she could have some influence of the decision. Then the BOE only votes on what she brings to them.

My wife works in the system, there are positive and negatives about Creel, however, you can see how many people are leaving the system for other opportunities, which to me is a "Red Flag" that people are not happy or they would stay.

I will not comment one way or another, however, I would say go to the meetings and see which BOE members go along with her and those who do not. Then make your opinion

#3.1.1 anon on 05/24/12 at 02:09 PM [Reply]

Actually, the school governance teams are not chosen by Dr. Creel. The teams have parent reps and business partners that are chosen at the school level, as well as teachers that are elected by their colleagues.

#3.1.1.1 howie on 05/24/12 at 02:25 PM [Reply]

Not what I was told. The teams were chosen by Creel and the local principles of people who were active in the school. Go and get the list from the PDC, they were asked as I know two of the business team members personally. They should have done a lottery for the parents instead they did the typical "PTO/PTA" members and students that are involved in the school.
Not saying they are bad choice, but they were asked to be on the governance team by the administration for the first go around.

#3.1.2 Anonymous on 05/24/12 at 07:56 PM [Reply]

You have to want to follow someone for them to be a true leader. Just having the title isn't enough.

#3.1.3 Howie Felterbum on 05/25/12 at 11:50 AM [Reply]

Let's say we cut Wanda and the rest of the admin's pay to cover a pay raise for all para pros? Three raises and they should be up to the minium wage level. How about a $2/hr raise for the bus drivers just for putting up with our little snot-nosed, unruly, disrespectful kids?

#3.1.3.1 John Birch on 06/01/12 at 06:18 AM [Reply]

How about they go find another job that will pay them what they think they are worth?

#3.2 Barrow Parent on 05/24/12 at 10:23 PM [Reply]

Yes Paige Mackie Dr. Creel DOES make the decisions. The school governance team from one school gave her 2 recommendations and she was furious because her "choice" wasn't listed. And what do ya know...neither of their recommendations were the person chosen for the position...

#3.2.1 Fortitude on 05/25/12 at 06:01 AM [Reply]

If you know this, why do you not send an email to the BOE members showing that DR. Creel is lying to them about the recommendations ?

Im sure this would not go well for her since her contract is coming to a close for next year

#4 Dexter Sims on 05/24/12 at 02:13 PM [Reply]

Good to see Swade Huff as the new principal of Statham Elementary School. Work with him at Cedar Shoals High School in Clarke County. Good man and he will do a good job.

#4.1 Barrow Parent on 05/24/12 at 10:36 PM [Reply]

He may be a good man. I hope that he is. But the Assistant Principal of Statham Elem, who by the way has been there 31 years, was the top choice of their school governance team. She should be the new principal of our school!!!

#4.1.1 Dexter Sims on 05/25/12 at 12:38 PM [Reply]

Been there 31 years and only an Assistant Principal. Just maybe the Barrow County School Board feels that 31 years at one school is long enough. Swade Huff will bring a fresh voice to Barrow County Schools.

#4.1.1.1 anon on 05/25/12 at 12:58 PM [Reply]

There's nothing wrong with "only" being an assistant principal, just like there's nothing wrong with the teachers who stay in the classroom for 30+ years. Not everyone wants to be an AP or a principal.

#4.1.1.2 Anon on 05/25/12 at 01:59 PM [Reply]

Mr. Sims are you a resident of Barrow County or have children in the school system?

#4.1.1.2.1 Dexter Sims on 05/25/12 at 02:46 PM [Reply]

No kids is the school system. I have an uncle that lives in Statham and has children at Statham Elementary School. When he heard about the appointment of Mr. Huff I told him I worked with him in Clarke County. Not here to debate with you about who should be Principal at Statham Elementary School, I have no dog in the fight. I just know Swade Huff and I know he is a good man and good educator and he has paid his dues and is well qualified for the position.

#4.1.1.2.1.1 Anon on 05/25/12 at 03:05 PM [Reply]

You really should keep your opinions to yourself if you don't know what's going on inside the system. Not trying to be rude, just trying to convey that this problem runs deeper than outsiders may think. People are upset because the process wasn't conducted as it should have been. As a Barrow County business leader, I can assure you that Mr. Huff wasn't the only candidate who has "paid their dues" and was well qualified for the position; or any of the principal positions for that matter.

#4.1.1.2.1.1.1 Dexter Sims on 05/25/12 at 04:56 PM [Reply]

If you read my original post you would see that I did not have an opinion. I was recognizing my friend on getting the job. I don't care what goes on within the Barrow County School System, but I can speak of my friend whenever I like. He is the new Principal at a school in Barrow County and I very happy for him.

#4.1.1.3 Anon on 05/25/12 at 05:33 PM [Reply]

"Been there 31 years and only an Assistant Principal. Just maybe the Barrow County School Board feels that 31 years at one school is long enough"

...this is what I was referring to...

#5 Sheesh on 05/24/12 at 03:16 PM [Reply]

It just seems odd that so many people on this site keep calling for change and then when the old guard begins to move out, they complain even more.

The last I heard was that school principals lead the governance teams, but starting next year the head of the governance teams are elected. Maybe you folks should get involved at that level and get elected to lead these governance teams. Let's see how good you do.

#6 Barrow Resident on 05/24/12 at 06:57 PM [Reply]

I heard County Line teachers were completely surprised that their assistant principal was assigned to another school. First, their principal and now their assistant is gone. Why would that be? They seem to be at a loss right now. I've never seen my friend so upset over something like this in her educational career. From what I understand it was a complete shock to all the teachers. They seem very baffled by why the governance team would have leaned in a different direction when the teachers at their school were (from what I understand) in total agreeance to recommend Mrs. Bresson. So many changes in this Barrow system. Some changes people are really questioning. May be a good idea to start showing up at board meetings more often. Our community needs to see first hand what is going on and get a better picture up front rather than making opinions based on blog comments.
Personally, I'm all for change to make things better, but at what cost to human feelings and relationships? If teachers aren't happy or are on pins and needles all the time and subjected to unexpected and unwarranted changes, are the children getting a quality whole-hearted education? Is it healthy to have teachers scared their name will need to be pulled out of a hat to be sent to another school? I feel terribly for my good friend who has suffered over the past few weeks. Schools are more than just businesses. They are families made of real people with real feelings and connections with one another. Students see this love and prosper from it. Plucking people from one place and putting at another may seem strategic to some, and in some cases that is true, but trying to fix something that isn't broken and making people miserable....?

#6.1 anonymous on 05/24/12 at 07:13 PM [Reply]

THANK YOU for speaking up!

#6.2 Joe on 05/24/12 at 07:23 PM [Reply]

With the history of test scores and graduation rates, maybe some change is what is needed.

Complaceny is never a good thing.

#7 Shall Remain Anon on 05/24/12 at 07:47 PM [Reply]

Not scape goat, but wolf in sheep's clothing.

#8 Another Barrow Resident on 05/24/12 at 09:08 PM [Reply]

THANK YOU BARROW RESIDENT... I know many GREAT teachers at County Line- my children attend(ed) this school. Yes they were shocked - but it IS NOT the governance team who is to fault! Those involved will not say much - just tears streaming down their face - they were pretty much threatened with their job... so from a reliable source... they gave their recommendataions and then were TOLD who would be principal. They obviously didn't have much say in the matter and the higher ups at hand would have thought about it... they would not have put them in the position to adjust to a Principal and an Assistant in one year! I am sure Mr. Koch will be fine as will the teachers - but stress levels are over the edge!

#8.1 Barrow Parent on 05/24/12 at 10:42 PM [Reply]

Thank you Another Barrow Resident....you are exactly right...they were told who was going to be principal....their choices didn't matter...

#8.2 Anonymous on 05/28/12 at 02:08 PM [Reply]

Please let me know how that happened. I am on a Governance Team but we didn't lose any administrators. It is my understanding that we make the recommendations to Creel and the BOE. If our voices aren't heard does that mean The Governance Teams are just for show? I am extremely bothered by this. I am all for change but the 1st thing I would like to see change is Wanda Creel and her friends that she brought to our county.

#9 And another barrow resident on 05/24/12 at 09:26 PM [Reply]

If Ms. Bresson is good enough to be principal of Yargo, why not County Line?

#9.1 anonymous on 05/27/12 at 02:36 PM [Reply]

This is what we all want to know! Diane Bresson is amazing and has been a perfect fit for CLES. Why is she being reassigned?

#10 Barrow parent on 05/24/12 at 10:05 PM [Reply]

Wanda Creel is in charge she is at the top right? Why not cut her salery? Is she going to be working in the heat this summer with no AC like the custodians are and have for years? yes they cut the AC off and make these people who keep our schools clean and are not paid much at all average $16,000 a year if they are lucky!

The school system is in trouble losing such great teachers and other staff. David Ly is an amazing teacher who made learning fun as well as keeping the kids positive while building social skills that are well needed. He will be missed very much!

Mr.Gregory is amazing!!! He is such a loss from our school system as over the years he has worn many hats and did great at all of them. He has helped my child over the years to get his education and be able to stay in school. "Least rest. environment" is to keep special ed children in their home school and not ship them around the Barrow Co schools to who ever wants to deal with a special need child for a little while. Mr. Gregory cares about his students and we need more people like him in our school system.

County Line has a strong teaching staff and they have not had the admin, suport since Dr. Johnson left the school. This is about more then just a job this is about our future and our children are the future. We need everyone of the classrooms and schools filled with people who are going to make a difference.

Our school system is making a mistake just throwing away caring hard working people. Our custodians have families too and just signing them off to a contract company is this really saving the system money or just keeping the higher paid people's checks coming?

The kitchen workers are so streched and over worked it's unfair and they need additional people not people trying to do so much that it's bad on their health.

Barrow Co parents we need to make a difference and speak up for our kids and people who have made a difference in each of our families!

Please forgive any mis-spelled words I am very angry!!!

#10.1 Responder to Barrow Parent on 05/25/12 at 05:43 AM [Reply]

Feel the need to defend the comment, "...have not had admin support since Dr. Johnson left..." Wow--that couldn't be further from the truth! Dr. McMichael, Kay Hollifield, and Diane Bresson have been the most supportive administrators I've ever worked with and I've been in education 26 years. Why do you think the teachers are in an uproar? We have great leaders being taken from us. Obviously Creel knows they are great since she scarfed Dr. McMichael away to join her at the PDC and sent Bresson to head another school. Does County Line get chopped liver now? I pray that we get excellent new leaders to continue the drive for hard work, excellence, and dedication, but without the Hitler effect. Right now, teachers are feeling like pawns in Dr. Creel's chess game. The game must end sometime. 2 more years?!

#10.1.1 Teacher on 05/25/12 at 08:58 AM [Reply]

I absolutely agree! There's no denying that Dr. Johnson was extremely supportive of his teachers. However, Dr. McMichael came in and continued the support and has been an amazing principal to work for. When we lost Kay Hollifield, we never expected to have another AP as caring about the teachers as she was. We got that and so much more with Diane Bresson. Anyone who is here and knows CLES inside and out would never say that there hasn't been any support since Dr. Johnson. This is why the teachers are in shock and are upset to lose both McMichael and Bresson at once.

Thankfully, we are a strong group... we will stick together and support one another and we will welcome our new administration with open arms as we move forward doing what is best for our kids.

#10.1.1.1 barrow parent on 05/29/12 at 07:32 PM [Reply]

I am not sure about the staff side but as a parent Dr.McMichael did not respond to my e-mails and was never available if I called the school with a concern as far as the AP I don't even know who she is, My children were at CLES with Dr.Johnson and have been through this school year and I do not feel the support for the parents and students. I am blessed to have children who do not get in trouble but when I have a concern I expect an answer and to know there is someone there. So I do hope the new person is better for the parents and students and the staff has the same level of support they have had.

Our children need to learn more then what is going to be on the CRCT too while I am addressing the suport for the teachers. Thats all we hear is what is on the CRCT and there is more to learn then just to prepare for a test.

#11 Barrow Parent on 05/24/12 at 10:30 PM [Reply]

There are so many people leaving because of Dr. Creel. I don't know why someone hasn't done anything about her yet. Apparently she's received a new 2 year contract and a 10% raise...while everyone else gets furlough days.

There were several barrow county applicants for the principal's positions that have given decades of dedication, commitment, and hard work to their school. The children know them and they know the children. Not to mention the staff. But Dr. Creel apparently wasn't "too impressed with the barrow county applicants" and chose people from out of county. What a slap in the face to these people. She's the sorriest excuse for a superindent that I've ever seen. All she's doing is tearing this county apart. BOARD MEMBERS NEED TO FIX THIS BEFORE ELECTION TIME. You have entire schools in uproars!!!!!

#12 Dismayed on 05/25/12 at 07:17 AM [Reply]

The School Governance Teams are a "smoke-screen" for Creel to hide behind in the name of 'consensus', 'collaboration' and 'parental-community' involvement, etc...
Some of the Governance Teams that worked at frantic pace this past Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday did NOT even have a Quroum present at meetings where candidates were selected for interviews or during the so-called interviews. And, several of the committees did not have the required particpants, ie. school-based administrator, student, 3-4 parents/bussiness partners, 3-4 teachers, and ex-officio member as required in the Barrow County Charter Petition.
Meaning, Creel did not even follow the guidelines in the petition she wrote.
BOE, didn't ya'll hire her because of her expertise with Charter Districts?

Well, you got an expert in 'smoke & mirrors', 'deceit', 'deception','disassebling', and 'disabling' our school system, Barrow County.
She has done all of that in only two years. What is left for her to do in her two-year extension?
Mike Buffington, is it true that the BOE extended her contract in the midst of this turmoil? Please find out and report. That should be public knowledge.

#12.1 Anonymous on 05/25/12 at 09:06 AM [Reply]

Where did you get this information? I would like to know about her extention, her raise and the Governance Team involvement.
I serve on a Governance Team at an uneffected school, I wouldn't sit back and not let me voice be heard. I haven't heard any Governance complaints from Russell. If what you are stating is fact, what is the point of a Governance Team.
I also DO NOT agree with extending Dr.Creel's contract with so many complaints from parents. Does anyone on the BOE have children in Barrow Co School?

#12.1.1 Dismayed on 05/25/12 at 08:11 PM [Reply]

I was told,the interview committee for Russell consisted of 8 people....7 of the 8 have their pay checks signed by Creel. Now, you tell me, is that parent, community, business particpation? Or, is that persuasion by intimidation? And, I am not saying that Ms. Sears is a bad choice, at all. It is the deception and abuse of the so-called Local Governance at all 4 schools that is repulsive. And then she, Creel, has the nerve to tell the BOE and media that her recommendations were the exact recommendations of all 4 School Governance Teams'.

#12.1.1.1 Anon on 05/25/12 at 08:17 PM [Reply]

Dismayed that is right on! She lied when she made that statement. What can be done about this???

#13 Give me a break........ on 05/25/12 at 07:46 AM [Reply]

Barrow schools rank at the bottom of the state. Change is not going to hurt this school system.

#13.1 Tasha on 05/31/12 at 10:18 PM [Reply]

According to Schooldigger.com Barrow's rank is 58th out of the 164 counties we have in georgia

#13.1.1 hmm on 06/01/12 at 07:23 AM [Reply]

the statement seems odd since in the USA the state of GA has 159 counties

#13.1.1.1 Anonymous on 06/01/12 at 08:16 AM [Reply]

Have to count the city districts too.

#14 Concerned Parent on 05/25/12 at 08:16 AM [Reply]

Several School Board positions are up for re-election. If you want to make changes, today is the day to apply to be on the November ticket.
You must apply by 12:00pm today at the Republican Party headquarters by the train tracks in Winder. There is $18 fee to apply.
Www.barrowgop.org

Please, if you want to see change, go and sign up!

#15 Frustrated on 05/25/12 at 09:30 AM [Reply]

The truth is that no matter how much we complain on here about Dr. Creel, nothing is going to be done about it unless we all work together, voice our concerns to someone who will listen, and get her out of our county. The way that the new principals were hired is outrageous. The school governance teams did not have the required participants during some of the meetings/interviews. What I do not understand is why she is allowed to continue doing what she is doing. So many good people are leaving the system because of her.

Let your voice be heard. Contact the board members, and media if you have to. I'm sure that the way she handled the meetings and interviews without the required participants carries some sort of consequences. Let's get her out of our county!!

#16 John Tuggle on 05/25/12 at 09:33 AM [Reply]

Amazing that the BOE is still cutting pay. Para-pros who work even harder then teachers are faced again with more fur-lo days and a pay cut. Average on makes 12,000 a year. After a 40 hour week that's around 6.25 an hour. Lower then min wage. The highers at the BOE, Principals, Creel and company should be ashamed of this. One pay cut from you saves 4 of their jobs. Always attacking the little worker in the wallet. As far as the Former Principle of Yargo. Didn't the board cut the newly appointed position she just took a couple of years ago. Now they create her one! Is this true. Creel and the BOE Shame on you.

#16.1 Barrow Citizen on 05/25/12 at 09:44 AM [Reply]

Yes, John Tuggle you are correct.

#17 Anonymous on 05/25/12 at 10:18 AM [Reply]

Quoting from you article..."School superintendent Wanda Creel said after the meeting that the four schools' governance teams recommended all four of the principal appointments, and she concurred with their recommendations."...

THIS STATEMENT MY WANDA CREEL IS A LIE!!!!

#18 anonymous on 05/25/12 at 10:39 AM [Reply]

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#19 Ivanna Tinkle on 05/25/12 at 11:09 AM [Reply]

Is this the same Creel who actually thought that drawing names out of a hat (lottery style)to cut teachers last year was a good idea? How about looking at the teachers' records. See who actually showed up for work every day. See whose CRCT and benchmark scores were exemplary? NO WAY, THAT would require a small investment of time on her part behind the computer screen. Just draw names out of a frickin' hat! It really is much faster!

#19.1 anon on 05/25/12 at 03:54 PM [Reply]

Yes, she's the same one who thinks a lottery system for determining teacher transfers is fair.

#19.2 from outside the bubble on 05/25/12 at 06:36 PM [Reply]

Wow! I know many people within the school system who are dedicated and commendable professionals. The tirelessly work to do the best for their students despite toxic work environments and increasingly oppressive work conditions.
Dr. Creel has decimated this school system and will increase her tyrannical rule as long as Barrow employees allow themselves to be intimidated and County residents don't ask ALL the questions. There should be no trust for those in power to have their children's best interests at heart, when clearly they don't; that faith has been violated. The "social media" policy she came out with earlier this year is enough reason to start looking behind "the curtain." Is Barrow County located in the United States or North Korea? I implore those fantastic Barrow educators I know to show their students American freedom and justice in action by standing up and speaking out for what you KNOW is RIGHT. What are we teaching our children if we talk American values and freedom, yet practice complacency and silence when those values and freedoms are violated? Barrow County children AND employees AND residents deserve the best possible education system we can offer; the Creel Administration is not it.
“Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ~ Elie Wiesel

#20 Max E. Padd on 05/25/12 at 11:24 AM [Reply]

Gotta give her props! She single-handedly disbanded Saunder's Good O'l Boys Club and gone too were their brown-nosing cronies! Cliques in a school are dangerous to morale.

#20.1 Anonymous on 05/25/12 at 11:37 AM [Reply]

Along with disbanding "Saunder's Good O'l Boys Club" she's also disbanding the entire county school system...

#20.2 Annie Omus on 05/25/12 at 12:43 PM [Reply]

I agree Ko Tex Padd. LOL! Seriously, I do agree and think it's a good thing to shake up the tired old system. I am personally glad a few of the listed teachers and the listed AHS AP is outta here!

#20.3 Barrow a lost cause on 05/29/12 at 10:52 AM [Reply]

yep the only ones Creel left were her own "brown-nosing cronies" she has started her own Good O'l Boys Club and Jake Grant is her "TOP DOG"!

#21 Herb Utsmelz on 05/25/12 at 11:44 AM [Reply]

Really? Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I will inform my fellow useless board members (when they come back from lunch at the Ga Club). Let's see if we renew her contract! This kind of chicanery will not stand, just our own kind.

#22 Yo mama on 05/25/12 at 09:33 PM [Reply]

Creel makes the decisions and not the governance team. She isn't fooling anyone.

#22.1 Anonymous on 05/26/12 at 07:35 AM [Reply]

She is obviously fooling the majority of the Board of Education Members!!!

Mike Buffington, any news of her 2-year contract extension???

#23 Anonymous on 05/27/12 at 04:49 AM [Reply]

Mike Buffington, please get some answers for us!!!

#24 You get what you vote for on 05/27/12 at 08:18 AM [Reply]

For all of you who are complaining about Dr. Creel, YOU VOTED FOR THE CURRENT BOE MEMBERS. When you had an opportunity to change the slate, you choose not to do it. You have to have BOE members who have a back bone and not ones who go along to get along. You have one chance in the upcoming election to get that done. Vote for Phil Thornton. He will at least stand up for the Teachers, Administrators and the students of Barrow County.

#25 Anonymous teacher on 05/27/12 at 08:24 AM [Reply]

I agree - a vote for Phil Thornton would be a smart move. I worked for him, and I know that he will get the job done. He's not afraid to stand up for the teachers, the administrators, and the people employed by the school system. We cannot afford to vote back in any incumbents.

#25.1 Anonymous on 05/31/12 at 08:26 PM [Reply]

phil thorton is an awesome person to work for

#26 Concerned Barrow Parent on 05/27/12 at 09:37 AM [Reply]

Can someone please start an investigation into the way things were handled. I can't imagine from what I've read and heard that it was legal. And YES...we need to elect all new board members who will stand up for the people in our county. This is ridiculous! I know many other parents who feel this way and will be voting for new members!!!

#26.1 Anonymous on 05/27/12 at 12:54 PM [Reply]

The question is....... What are the proper channels to start an investigation? Sadly, in a couple of days, this article and it's ensuing criticism will die down and disappear. Until the next incident. Someone has to have the gumption to keep this 'alive'.

#26.1.1 Anonymous on 05/27/12 at 01:15 PM [Reply]

You can rrport to state or any Iteam news crews love this

#27 Charter Smarter on 05/27/12 at 02:03 PM [Reply]

Unfortunately, all the hype and concern over this issue will go by the wayside in another day or so. Come Tuesday morning, the superintendent will carry on her jolly way charming the board members and the media. Writing online here at the Barrow Journal only reaches a minority of people in the county. Educators, parents, and other community members need to branch out more globally to share their concerns and follow the correct route of attacking the issue, which many are still trying to figure out what that route is. Is it writing letters to board members or contacting the State Charter System Advisory Committee at the DOE? By the way, the Charter System Advisory Committee website, http://www.doe.k12.ga.us/External-Affairs-and-Policy/Charter-Schools/Pages/default.aspx , provides detailed information on the state law and Georgia Charter Systems.
A little background....What is a Charter System?
A charter system is a local school district that operates under the terms of a charter between the State Board of Education and the local school district. The system receives flexibility from certain state rules and regulations in exchange for greater accountability. There is an emphasis on school based leadership and decision-making.
What type decisions do the School Governance Teams make?
"The local teams will make meaningful decisions that will impact the education of children in our community. Decisions will include budget and staffing for local schools."You can find the Barrow County School Governance By-Laws here:
https://eboard.eboardsolutions.com/meetings/TempFolder/Meetings/By-Laws_316317ysodv545vd2rfnbaycgrdg55.pdf
A few questions to ponder:
1. School Governance Teams are to include the principal, 2 teachers, 2 parents, 2 business partners/community members, and 1 student. The assistant principal serves as ex-officio. Of all the SGTs I've seen or heard of, not one has had a student representative. I do believe it is optional at the elementary setting, though. If they did serve, what part would the student play in the decision-making/interviewing process of personnel or would they?
2. If a school is losing a principal, wouldn't it seem appropo that the leaving principal have a say in who will be succeeding her/him? Or at least some kind of input? I assume since no principals that I know of served on the SGT interviewing committees, that it is considered a conflict of interest, but that seems a bit oxymoronic. So essentially, a principal cannot recommend or promote their own assistant principal--right hand woman or man--to take the reigns of the school even if they know this is best for the faculty, staff, students, and parents. "Hands are tied." Who would know what is best for the school besides the principal? Certainly not someone who makes a presence in a building no more than 3 times a year. Teachers should be next on the list of knowing what their school needs. I know for a fact that one of the elementary schools knew exactly what they needed--they are professional, intelligent adults after all--and their recommendation of moving the assistant principal up was squashed. Instead, an unknown candidate was recommended to the board. The team's voice was never heard. Interestingly enough, that assistant principal was sent to be principal across the county at a completely different school for unknown reasons. So, for the person that mentioned in an earlier post that said the interviewing teams met over a course of 5 days and even on a weekend, it sounds like that was a lot of wasted time when the decisions had already been ultimately made. What purpose the SGT then?
To reiterate the statement quoted by "From outside the bubble"--#19.2 above--
“Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ~ Elie Wiesel
What will you be doing Tuesday morning?

#27.1 Anonymous on 05/27/12 at 05:08 PM [Reply]

THANK YOU for posting this information. I know what I will be doing Tuesday morning! Others who are upset, please do the same! Also, contact the news stations!

#27.2 Anonymous on 05/27/12 at 09:34 PM [Reply]

Actually barrow's charter calls for 3 to 4 teachers and 3 to 4 non-staff parents / community members. Only 1 of the 2 parents / community members on Russell's SGT was a non-Barrow Schools employee. I guess if the committee included 3 or 4 non-staff as required in the Charter petition, Creel may not have gotten her way without one of her infamous crying tantrums!
The SDOE and SBOE may be interested in Creel not following the requirements of the Charter since our own boe will not stand for what is right.

#28 Charter Smarter trying again on 05/27/12 at 02:10 PM [Reply]

I'm trying to post information on sites/agencies to contact concerning the issue, but Barrow Journal has not approved it. Twice now I've submitted, but nothing has been posted. Are we trying to hide the Charter Advisory Committee information?

#28.1 Anonymous on 05/28/12 at 07:27 AM [Reply]

A report or complaint to SACS, Southern Association of Colleges and Schools, would be appropriate as SACS is also concerned with local governance.
SACS contact: Mr. Paul Reviere (404) 679-4500
Every concerned citizen should call Mr. Reviere.

#29 Anonymous on 05/27/12 at 10:25 PM [Reply]

2 SGT members of one school were sent back

#30 ??? on 05/27/12 at 10:27 PM [Reply]

What do you mean by sent back?

#30.1 Anonymous on 05/28/12 at 12:02 AM [Reply]

2 members of the school's SGT were sent away. They were not allowed to participate in the process...

#31 Curious on 05/29/12 at 12:12 PM [Reply]

What experience in the education field does Jake Grant have?

#31.1 Anonymous on 05/29/12 at 04:45 PM [Reply]

Oh he doesn't have any experience in the education field...just buildings...his wife however is a principal in one of the county schools...

#32 Really? on 05/29/12 at 02:02 PM [Reply]

I do believe parents are responsible for teaching children good hygiene no matter where they are from.

#33 joe on 05/29/12 at 02:02 PM [Reply]

Yer (sic) so funny. Don't you wonder how our students are going to Harvard and Georgia Tech?

#33.1 Fact on 05/29/12 at 02:22 PM [Reply]

I know first hand how they get in...
There are quotas for white students they must fill and sometimes (sadly) it is hard for them to fill. I say this in all seriousness. Many spots particularly are easily filled by Asian and Indian subcultures.

#34 Seriously! on 05/29/12 at 02:52 PM [Reply]

Really??? What does any of this have to do with the article??? Grow up!

#35 Anonymous on 05/29/12 at 05:27 PM [Reply]

Jake the Good O'l Boy only has experience in "brown-nosing" and messing up building like the wbhs feild house... and transportation building both had to be redone how much money did that waste?????

#36 Just Checking on 05/29/12 at 06:46 PM [Reply]

So, what has anyone actually done today concerning the original issue? Writing on here still isn't going get much done. I know two news stations have been contacted, but we'll have to wait and see if they pick it up. Letters written to board members yet? Remember it takes more than one or two letters and all members should be contacted. This is not just a personal attack on the superintendent. It's about following guidelines and procedures and doing what is best for our schools, teachers, and students.

#36.1 Anonymous on 05/29/12 at 09:39 PM [Reply]

Contacted WSB TV and I hope more people contact them as well!

#37 Anonymous on 05/29/12 at 08:56 PM [Reply]

How are things over Oconee County way these days Mr. Blogger? Playing any golf

#38 From a teacher on 05/30/12 at 06:25 AM [Reply]

What is on the CRCT is what we are supposed to be teaching!

#39 Mike Buffington, Publisher on 05/30/12 at 07:35 AM [Reply]

The SGT do not hire principals, that is the duty of the superintendent to recommend principals to the board of education, which has the final say. While the SGT can give input, they do not hire and the superintendent is not bound to follow their recommendations. Legally, the superintendent doesn't even have to consult the SGT. There is much information being posted here on this matter by people who frankly don't know what they're talking about.
I address this issue in an editorial this week.

#39.1 Sheesh on 05/30/12 at 08:19 AM [Reply]

What?? Bad information is on this site!? People just make up things and post them as facts!?

Duh.

This site is entertaining in a low-end, tawdry sort of way. But, only the totally misinformed would ever consider these rants as anything real or useful.

#39.1.1 Anonymous on 05/30/12 at 11:50 AM [Reply]

Entertaining is a way not unlike the BJ itself, which trucks in tabloid trash gussied up by a pencil-necked bloviator whose ignorance is exceeded only by his arrogance.

#39.2 Another Barrow Resident on 05/30/12 at 10:11 AM [Reply]

Mr. Buffington is correct... The SGT does not hire the principals, they only have the opportunity to provide input. I think the issue here is these SGTs took time away from their classrooms and work during the last weeks of school to be able to look over applications, interview possible candidates, and make suggestions only to have their input heard, then shot down, and presented to the public by Dr. Creel as if she presented names to the board based only on the suggestions of the SGT. Her choice of words could have been different - for instance - she could have stated something to the effect of - While all SGTs were allowed to give recommendations, and some of the choices were based on those recommendations, some were based on my judgement.

#39.3 Anonymous on 05/30/12 at 11:03 AM [Reply]

Mike
You are confusing law with Charter guidelines and propoganda. Technically you are correct about the superintendent's authority. But it is Creel that is touting parental and community support and telling the BOE that the principals were the SGT's choice. Not true. Why isn't she honest and take ownership of what IS her decision. Is that called politics or lying? And I do know what I am talking about.
Any news on her 2-year contract extension?

#39.4 Anon on 05/30/12 at 11:33 AM [Reply]

Mr. Buffington you are missing the point entirely. What people are upset about is that first of all she did not allow the requires number of SGT members to take part in the process. She also lied when she said that those hired were the SGT's choices. They recommended different petiole for some of the positions. And Creel was furious when her pick was not one of the names. I know this for a fact!!! The SGTs were told who was going to be chosen. You need to report AlL of the facts and make sure they are true!

#39.4.1 Mike Buffington, Publisher on 05/30/12 at 11:41 AM [Reply]

Ms Creel did clearly say the choices she recommended to the BOE were those supported by the SGT groups. That is a quote in a story that will be in print tonight. However, the only people who dispute that are anonymous bloggers who say those were not the SGT choices. Until someone steps forward with a real name and with verifiable information the contrary, we have no reason to question that information. No member of those 4 SGT teams has come forward to say that information isn't true.

#39.4.1.1 Anon on 05/30/12 at 12:35 PM [Reply]

Well she may have said it but it's clearly NOT true. And maybe some of these "anonymous blogger" that you're referring to are members of the SGT but are in fear of losing their job if they come forward. Creel obviously can do whatever she wants and get away with it. Why are you defending her with such tenacity?
Just maybe if people felt comfortable coming forward with their name being used they might.

#39.4.1.1.1 Mike Buffington, Publisher on 05/30/12 at 12:50 PM [Reply]

I'm not defending anyone, just point out that all of those who have claimed the SGT teams were not in agreement with the decisions have not stepped forward to dispute that except by anonymous blogging. That isn't credible information. Use your name and show me the data, and I'll report it. But if you don't have the courage to put your name on your allegations, then why should I or anyone else take it seriously? If the superintendent lied to her BOE about the support of a SGT, then that's a serious allegation. But rumor isn't evidence and it isn't credible. Show me minutes of the meeting, or have a majority of a SGT go on the record that they voted one way and the superintendent ignored it. If official votes were taken, then that should be a matter of record. If not, then it was only a consensus recommendation open for anyone to interpret any way they wish. Show me evidence and we will report it, but we won't base reporting on rumor and anonymous comments.

#39.4.1.1.1.1 Just Curious on 05/30/12 at 02:05 PM [Reply]

Is there any way for someone to privately come forward to you, Mike, without "publicly" coming forward? I'm not involved, but I truly feel these people are in fear of losing their jobs.

#39.4.1.1.1.1.1 Mike Buffington, Publisher on 05/30/12 at 02:38 PM [Reply]

Only if they bring forward independent evidence that the SGT voted one way and was overruled. Without that kind of documentation, it is just he-said, she-said. I do have a problem with people who choose to serve on groups like the SGT, then when there is controversy they want to hide behind the theme of "my job is in danger." If that is their fear, then they shouldn't have agreed to serve in the first place.
We get a lot of reports on issues like this and very often it turns out that in these kinds of meetings, people hear just what they want to hear and tune out the rest. I've seen that happen many times with public agencies in meetings. I don't know for sure, but I suspect that something similar happened in these SGT meetings where there was discussion about multiple candidates and the final decision was a rather vague consensus and not a real vote. Misunderstandings often happen that way.
The superintendent gives a very detailed outline in tonight's paper about how that process took place. The groups apparently met together in a very short time frame (over a few days) to get to the recommendations. The pace of that process and the blending of SGT teams in the process might well have led to some misunderstandings.
What's troubling here is that people are alleging the superintendent actually lied to the BOE, yet they offer no evidence of that and they make those allegations from behind a veil. It could be... stranger things have happened... but I really don't find that very credible in the absence of evidence. Just because someone says that's the case doesn't make it true.

#39.4.1.1.1.1.1.1 anonymous on 05/30/12 at 11:17 PM [Reply]

The teacher members of the SGT should be afraid of losing their jobs. The SGT members had to basically swear their lives away that they wouldn't speak about the interview process.

#39.4.1.1.1.1.1.2 Sheesh on 06/06/12 at 10:21 AM [Reply]

Maybe minutes of SGT meetings should be posted on school websites. Seems like a simple enough solution.

#39.4.1.1.1.1.1.2.1 to on 06/06/12 at 12:52 PM [Reply]

If you go to the eBoard site, you should be able to view the meeting minutes.

#39.4.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1 Can't find them on 06/06/12 at 03:31 PM [Reply]

I went to the site but couldn't find them. It is possible that I overlooked them though. Have you looked?

#39.4.1.2 parent on 05/30/12 at 12:42 PM [Reply]

Great reporting, if she said it then it must be true.

#39.5 anon on 05/31/12 at 06:52 PM [Reply]

Yes, Mike, the superintendent is the person who makes the hiring decisions. The problem that most people seem to have is this quote from your paper:

"Creel then met with each governance team the afternoon of the BOE’s May 23 meeting.

“I met with each individual governance team, and they brought forward who they felt like was the right fit for their school, and those were the recommendations I took forward to the board, and those were the recommendations the board has approved,” she said"

County Line teachers, the the County Line SGT did feel that Bresson was the best fit for their school. I don't think there would be as much of an uproar if the superintendent would just be honest and say that she listened to the SGT recommendations, but went with the candidates that she felt were best.

#39.5.1 Anonymous on 05/31/12 at 07:09 PM [Reply]

Exactly. Another school's SGT recommended someone for their school but the person hired was not their pick.

#39.5.2 Mike Buffington, publisher on 05/31/12 at 08:37 PM [Reply]

Was there a vote taken?

#40 parent on 05/30/12 at 11:43 AM [Reply]

It is called "smoke and mirrors"...don't fool yourself thinking she is not in complete control. If you don't think so, ask one of the many people she has ran off. We know her hires make no sense.

#41 Anonymous on 05/30/12 at 11:46 AM [Reply]

Where did you get that information? How do I find it? If that is true then I will contact every news team and I will go to the BOE. I hope that isn't true our kids are so underserved. We don't have near the technology other counties have and we buy our Super a car and house. Seriously hope that isn't true.

#42 Ray on 05/30/12 at 11:55 AM [Reply]

Creel and Ms.Wanda have run off many good people at the Bus shop. Too many cheifs over there for anybody to get any work done....

#43 Fortitude on 05/30/12 at 02:44 PM [Reply]

Why dont you people let the BOE members know that you have proof, Creel can be done away with if you will stand up or just stay behind your little keyboards and dont say anything

#43.1 Anonymous on 05/30/12 at 10:19 PM [Reply]

Creel and the d.a. are your mortal enemies, it seems.
Hey, buddy boy, you are 0 for 2.

#43.1.1 Anonymous on 05/30/12 at 10:25 PM [Reply]

who are you talking to?

#44 Barrow Parent on 05/30/12 at 03:50 PM [Reply]

Isn't it funny how small town politics works? You all are never going to get anywhere with Mike Buffington and this "paper." He has evidently chosen sides. He's letting Wanda Creel speak and defend herself yet gets upset because you are expressing your concerns. Take your proof to someone who will stand up for what is right. Give it to a news station or a real paper. But please give it to someone.

#45 Wondering where on 05/30/12 at 06:40 PM [Reply]

Where is the editorial?

#46 a great on 05/30/12 at 11:56 PM [Reply]

bumper sticker.... We are the proud parents of a child who has resisted his teachers' attempts to break his spirit and bend him to the will of his corporate masters.

#46.1 Anonymous on 05/31/12 at 01:19 AM [Reply]

OTOH, you have disobedient little hellion whose parents excuse his every outburst and praise his every violation of rules and decorum. He'll go far with paranoid enablers such as you as role models.

#47 Anonymous on 06/02/12 at 05:12 PM [Reply]

got a point why is school system slappin the drivers in face by taking trips away from them and making the teachers get cdl to drive them.Barrow county schools heading the wrong way .

#47.1 Fortitude on 06/02/12 at 10:14 PM [Reply]

I would assume to save $$ as teachers/coaches are paid extra for teaching/coaching extra curricular activities, so the bus driver making time and half cost more to the system.

#48 Laymen on 06/03/12 at 09:09 AM [Reply]

Whenever someone tries to raise the bar by working hard and not using the common excuses, those in their comfortable positions demonize their leader. A lot of posting by educators with little mention about the kids. I remember a time when the principle was not your friend. The school supertindent was not the teachers buddy. The best bosses I ever had were not my buddies. Our school system needs a strong demanding purpose driven leader not another one who is happy to leave things as they are. We are facing tough economic times with many more budget cuts in education to come. At the same time many kids are not getting what they need at home. A quality public education is the only hope for these kids and the future of our community. If you are a teacher I want to thank you for your service. I would hope that we can turn our focus from trying to control our administrators to making sure each child has the full attention of his teacher. These kids deserve your best regardless of your treatment by management.

#49 Anonymous on 06/03/12 at 11:24 AM [Reply]

Layman gets it.

#50 Bright Side on 06/04/12 at 05:21 PM [Reply]

Let's try to look on the bright side....Maybe things will be even better than they already were at these schools with the new personnel. Perhaps Divine Intervention actually took place and they just don't realize it yet. Here's to a great 2012-2013 school year in Barrow County!

#51 Anonymous on 06/04/12 at 08:50 PM [Reply]

There is only one common denominator in all of these openings. She's going to continue to run every good teacher and administrator we have left out of the county.

#51.1 Anonymous on 06/04/12 at 10:46 PM [Reply]

You are exactly right!! What's the word on her 2 year contract? And what about the editorial?

#52 Anonymous on 06/05/12 at 08:36 PM [Reply]

23 opening in Barrow County schools according to the Teach Georgia web site.... What is going on in Barrow County schools that everyone wants to leave???? could it be the head lady "Ms Creel" hmmmmm If you look at the openings in other systems there are 2 or 3 openings but here we have 23 WTH......

#53 Anonymous on 06/05/12 at 08:47 PM [Reply]

So most other systems are cutting people's jobs and putting teachers on the unemployment line and Barrow is actually hiring for positions. In your world this is a bad thing? Must be a sad and backwards place where you are.

I say good job!

#53.1 Anonymous on 06/06/12 at 09:20 AM [Reply]

There are no new positions. Positions have actually been lost. The openings are due to the good teachers finding greener pastures.

#54 To the misinformed Creel supporter on 06/06/12 at 01:32 AM [Reply]

You missed the point....duhhhhh The question is WHY are there so many open jobs in Barrow schools? They ARE NOT creating jobs these are vacant jobs because the employees have left for greener pastures and a more stable environment where the top in charge is not changing policies every other day, and by the way you need to check your info Creel HAS cut many jobs in our system not created them and in my world (the real world) that's not good.

#54.1 joe on 06/06/12 at 07:51 AM [Reply]

There are many open jobs in Barrow, because just like virtually every other county in the state of Georgia, budgets are declining due to lowered property values. From the super achievers such as Gwinnett, to Barrow, to inside-the-perimeter DeKalb, budgets are being cut.

What happens when budgets are cut? Jobs are lost. And many teachers are retiring, creating open positions.

#54.2 Anonymous on 06/06/12 at 11:45 AM [Reply]

People are leaving the county because of Creel. People are sometimes so clueless or just don't want to see the truth. Changing policies, drawing names out of a hat...I mean what else can we expect?

#55 To Joe and the other clueless..... on 06/06/12 at 02:18 PM [Reply]

Creel is the reason plain and simple! Go to the Teach Georgia web site we(Barrow) has the largest number of vacant jobs more than Gwinnett who is four times the size of Barrow and more than "virtually every other county in the state of Georgia". Not only are people leaving because of CREEL we can't get people to come here to work. If the economic was better we would be in a world of trouble because allot more would be leaving. And if the BOE can’t or won’t (because of their pride) see this then we need to VOTE THEM OUT!!!!!

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