CSX crew surprises Winder by showing up after all; Broad Street crossing is closed to traffic

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Monday, April 2. 2012

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If the corporate office of CSX Transportation Inc. did cancel this week’s planned repairs to two of its busiest railroad crossings in Winder, it forgot to tell its crews scheduled to do the work.

Lt. Rob Curott, the Winder Police Department's operations commander, said last week that he had received a call from CSX telling him that the Broad Street crossing would be closed for repairs on Monday, April 2, and the crossing at Horton Street would close on Wednesday, April 4. He asked the Barrow Journal to help publicize the planned closings of the two busy crossings.

But when asked how long the work would take, CSX spokesman Gary Sease then told the Barrow Journal that the work had been postponed indefinitely.

However, CSX workers showed up this morning after all and closed the crossing at Broad and May streets.

Because of the mixed messages from CSX, Winder police chief Dennis Dorsey and his department did prepare. They posted a few warning signs, placed barriers nearby, and told a handful of officers to be ready to direct traffic if they were needed. Those officers currently are directing traffic at Athens and Broad streets; at Athens and Center streets; at Athens and Horton streets; and at May and Center streets.

The chief said he and Curott drove around checking traffic flow just before noon.

"It’s flowing decent," Dorsey said. "Sure, there are interruptions and backups because we’re having to re-route traffic. But it’s probably going as good as it can be right now. The officers are doing a great job.”

Although CSX likely is planning, as originally intended, to close the Horton Street crossing on Wednesday, Dorsey said he hopes the Broad Street crossing re-opens by then.

“They couldn't close both of them because we would have nowhere to send the trucks,” he said.

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#1 Anonymous on 04/02/12 at 11:59 AM [Reply]

It might have been a surprise, but surely the WPD has someone that can direct traffic better that one they put at Athens and Horton Sts Monday around noon. He may have some talent, but traffic directing is not one of them. He needs to be trained if he is going to be put in that position.

#1.1 Anonymous on 04/02/12 at 12:52 PM [Reply]

This, this and this!!!

Never seen anyone that bad!

#1.1.1 Agree on 04/02/12 at 06:02 PM [Reply]

Either they changed traffic officers at Athens & Horton just before the Chief got there at noon, or the Chief doesn't know anything about traffic directing.
This officer shouldn't even be directing traffic in the middle of a ONE WAY street.

#1.1.2 Anonymous on 04/02/12 at 07:06 PM [Reply]

OmG.. must have been the same big guy at 6 pm at Horton and Atlanta Hwy! What a joke. He was more concerned with his cell phone than directing traffic!

#2 Anonymous on 04/02/12 at 12:46 PM [Reply]

dont be surprized when they close Horton Street at same time Csx what a joke

#3 But the road closed sign was out yesterday on 04/02/12 at 12:53 PM [Reply]

stating the crossing would be closed starting 4-2.

Today IS the 2nd

#4 A Friend on 04/02/12 at 01:16 PM [Reply]

Terry England can't even get the state parks department to rescind the mountain biking trail charge at Ft Yargo State Park. What do you think he's going to do to CSX?

#4.1 Anonymous on 04/02/12 at 03:27 PM [Reply]

Terry England and Nathan Deal are too concerned with themselves and their ego's to worry about the common taxpayer!!! Both are a joke to government!

#4.1.1 Yes, Yes they are on 04/02/12 at 03:30 PM [Reply]

but did you vote for them? Someone did, LOTS of someones did.

Remember this when England is up for re-election

#4.1.1.1 A Friend on 04/02/12 at 05:00 PM [Reply]

I voted for England, but definitely not for Deal. England will win re-election as he normally runs unopposed.

#5 Anonymous on 04/02/12 at 02:44 PM [Reply]

Then you (the chief) would go to jail for false imprisonment. The Supreme Court ruled in the 1800s that the railroads have the right of way. The street is crossing the railroad's property; not the other way around.

#5.1 Anonymous on 04/02/12 at 09:05 PM [Reply]

I would also have your arrested you moron.

#6 TickedOff on 04/02/12 at 03:07 PM [Reply]

Right you are in reference to the sign. It was actually out on Friday. So whos getting duped this time? Either the city is lying to us or CSX is lying to them. Nevertheless, the communications at this level should be better. God help us if and actual disaster or catastrophe hits. But citizens are to fault as well, or maybe they just cant read. The tractor trailer traffic must be stopped. We need a bypass.CSX is above the law. I personally witnessed this not too long ago when a man was struck and killed at Horton St. The crossing was not working that morning. I waited for a train to pass with no signals working at all. Yet late, late that evening they were still there working on the signals.

#7 Anonymous on 04/02/12 at 06:13 PM [Reply]

Can you believe there are 10% who have voted in the new poll concerning the downtown traffic. All I can say is that these people must travel at night when there is no traffic or they are aliens and travel in spaceships.

#8 Anonymous on 04/02/12 at 08:05 PM [Reply]

Traffic has been horrible in downtown forever...railroad closed or not. It could be worse.

#8.1 Anonymous on 04/02/12 at 09:47 PM [Reply]

The poor fellow at Horton and Athens just before noon did make it worse than the new lights would have. I'm sure he can do something, but please keep him out of traffic control.

#8.1.1 Any Moose on 04/03/12 at 11:35 AM [Reply]

The new lights are nice, however, I can't believe they didnt' put left turn arrows for Athens St. onto Horton. It's near impossible to make that turn in the afternoon, especially since there is NO longer a "right turn" lane on Horton.

#8.2 Barrow Resident on 04/03/12 at 08:45 AM [Reply]

I totally agree...Traffic is so ridiculous through Winder most days of the week and especially Fridays!

#9 Bus Driver on 04/02/12 at 10:53 PM [Reply]

CSX is not even made to keep the foliage cut back either we are required by law to stay back at least 15 feet ,not possible when you can not see down the tracks because of trees,grown up weeds,etc... Oh and don't forget Hill's it is in the view of the tracks so we must pull up closer! Very Dangerous! So how long will these old R/R ties lay on the ground,they were never cleaned up from last time look at the side of the hills old rotted R/R ties, Clean up your mess CSX!

#10 lol on 04/03/12 at 03:28 AM [Reply]

RR are federaly protected, even if sued and they lose the federal govt pays not the RR, this isnt new its old time practice since the 1800s

#11 james on 04/03/12 at 04:53 AM [Reply]

hey leave the poor cop alone next time your drunk and fighting over keys who in the world cares if he was not well trained in traffic and that mess was a surpise,, cut him a break

#11.1 Anonymous on 04/03/12 at 07:50 AM [Reply]

Sorry you can't read. I said he may be good at something, but not traffic directing. The Chief said they "did prepare" and "TOLD a handful of officers to BE READY to direct traffic if they were needed."
Maybe he was just doing what he was TOLD and was never gotten READY.

#11.2 Anonymous on 04/04/12 at 04:03 PM [Reply]

After experiencing that poor traffic director Monday at KFC, the one at May and Center St just before noon today (Wed) was a real professional traffic director. Great job!

#12 Any Moose on 04/03/12 at 11:27 AM [Reply]

Can't wait for them to tear up the crossing at Holly Hills! ;-)

#13 Anonymous on 04/03/12 at 12:26 PM [Reply]

now got one above Jihn Mansville dug up hope dont raise it higher too

#14 Anonymous on 04/03/12 at 04:43 PM [Reply]

I had to go thru Athens and Center twice today and Horton and Athens and Horton and May twice.

I'm not a cop or a family member of a cop, however, I did not want to be out there doint what they were today. Even the Chief was out directing...did a pretty good job too. Anyway, I think they did the best they could with the traffic situation around Winder. Remember, the Engineers with the Ga. Department of Transportation are the biggest, dumbest and most ignorant people ever worked for a state. Anyone who designed something like they did at Horton and Athens should be arrested and put in jail for stupidity.

Try going to Hill's and then getting out and making a right toward town. I use to be that you only had to get out into one lane of traffic and most of the time, someone was nice enough to let you in...now, you have to cross the turn lane if someone lets you in and hope you don't get nailed in the second lane going toward town. I sat there a few days ago before all the railroad crossing mess and it took several miuntes to get out. Yeah, brilliant GDOT engineers.

#14.1 Anonymous on 04/03/12 at 05:03 PM [Reply]

Thank you, Mr. Hill for that unbiased opinion!

#14.2 Anonymous on 04/03/12 at 09:02 PM [Reply]

Try using the upper exit across from the bank.
You won't have those drivers swerving into the right turn lane at 45 MPH without giving a signal.

#15 Anonymous on 04/03/12 at 07:57 PM [Reply]

I don't believe that is Mr. Hill. He knows not to exit there, and I don't believe he would think the traffic directing was the best they could.

#16 Anonymous on 04/03/12 at 11:58 PM [Reply]

They should shut down the Beulah Street crossing for good. That would keep the City of Winders big trucks and their heavy equipment from tearing up Beulah Street. They use Beulah to get in and out of the city work shops. They have their own entrance on May Street. The city should not be on Beulah pulling out onto Athens Street. They are tearing up the street, making too much noise and creating a dangerous situation.

#16.1 Idiot on 04/04/12 at 03:11 PM [Reply]

I responded to your super rediculus statement #15 but the Barrow Journal seemed to think it was not fit for print... Disallowed.

#16.1.1 I called you a Idiot on 04/04/12 at 04:14 PM [Reply]

so You didnt get the message..

Really Barrow Journal, really, NOW after all this time, "Id@it" will get my relevant to that comment message not posted??

#16.1.1.1 WE on 04/04/12 at 04:33 PM [Reply]

Shutup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#16.1.2 Citizen on 04/04/12 at 05:09 PM [Reply]

It is the City of Winder that is creating havoc on Beulah Street. I say shut the RR crossing down and make them use their main entrance on May Street. It is just a matter of time until someone gets hurt when one of the big city dump trucks towing a tractor gets hit pulling onto Athens Street.

#16.1.2.1 I did it again (#15 & #15.1.2) on 04/04/12 at 05:23 PM [Reply]

All of you are idi0ts about Beulah St, the City has just as much right to egress as anyone else, So you BOTH would have the city coming going with Large Trucks on OUR MAIN Commerical road thru town, then clogging up the Broad St & Horton st Crossings?? That is stoopid. The city has the right and need to use the street to service our Water, Gas, Streets, etc.

What about YOU not using Beulah St? --Or would you both just perfer we CLOSE IT (as one of you super brains said). What about Pruitt Oil or the Furnature Trucks, the Pallet maker Trucks?

Yes, it will benefit Winder if we FURTHER CLOG the other Streets to save Beulah Street!! This is why we DIDNT elect you to any office.

I say YOU stay off Beulah Street.

#16.1.2.2 Anonymous on 04/04/12 at 08:04 PM [Reply]

Oh come on people do really think CSX would close Beulah St RR crossing? If you do not want the city trucks going down it, then take it up with the city. Not CSX.

#16.1.2.2.1 Anonymous on 04/04/12 at 08:33 PM [Reply]

CSX would be glad to close it. They would close every crossing if they could. No maintenance, signals, slowing down, warnings, etc. Look at the Cedar Creek / Hogan Rd crossing. Someone was ignorant enough to let CSX trick them into closing it.

#16.1.3 Anonymous on 04/04/12 at 06:03 PM [Reply]

What is ridiculous is an 'ignoranus' who uses a word that he cannot spell.

#16.1.3.1 To Mr Anonymous 15.1.3 on 04/04/12 at 06:44 PM [Reply]

Hey jerko, we have covered this over and over, we dont need a "grammar police dept" here, it is about the author's MESSAGE not a few misspelled words, Unless you don't have the brain power to comprehend the message because you dont have enought intellect to see through to the POINT of the message.

#16.1.3.1.1 Anonymous on 04/06/12 at 08:31 AM [Reply]

You obviously lack the intellect to write grammatically correct sentences. Do you know what a comma splice is? Or a sentence fragment? And, your attempt to suppress the posting of corrections is amusing. So, you and other uneducated folks have "covered this over and over"? As if that decides it. Sorry, but you ain't the Supreme Court of blog rules & regs. Take my advice: Enroll in remedial English. It might save you from being the object of so much ridicule.

#16.1.3.1.1.1 OK on 04/06/12 at 11:05 AM [Reply]

Shutup!!!!!!!!!!!!

#16.2 Whaaaa!! theres a scary City Truck on 04/04/12 at 05:26 PM [Reply]

I say make it a TOLL ROAD for IDI0TS.

#16.3 City Employee on 04/05/12 at 11:54 PM [Reply]

I think most people here know what your agenda is. If you dislike Winder so much. Why don't you go back to San Francisco. The city is NOT going to stop driving on your street.

#16.3.1 Anonymous on 04/09/12 at 12:23 AM [Reply]

Lady, you a total nut case. Your daughter even said so.

#17 #15 post on 04/04/12 at 10:16 PM [Reply]

The person that made that statement could care less about closing the crossing on Beulah. They just trying to stop city construction vehicles from using their street.

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