Election details

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Mike Buffington
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Tuesday, November 8. 2011
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Challenger David Maynard defeated incumber Mayor Chip Thompson 58% to 42% to win the city's top seat in Tuesday's balloting.

Also passing was a 60%-40% "Yes" vote to replace the current Barrow County government with a county manager system.

The sale of alcohol in stores on Sunday also passed in Barrow County and the towns of Winder and Auburn

Details:

Winder Mayor

David Maynard 745

Chip Thompson 548

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Council At-Large

Larry Evans 828

Tim Bolt 431

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Council Ward 2

Charlie Eberhart 158

Jim Cooley 39

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Winder Sunday sales

Yes 707

No 592

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County manager government

Yes 2,305

No 1,534

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Sunday alcohol sales (county)

Yes 2,253

No 1,631

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Auburn Sunday sales

Yes 155

No 53

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In the Statham at-large council seat, the results are:

*Perry Barton 116

*Hattie Thrasher (I) 114

Rudy Krause 71

*Top 2 vote-getters win.

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Both Braselton and Hoschton voted overwhelming to allow stores to sell alcohol on Sunday.

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Bethlehem

Scott Morgan (I) 22

C.L. Wood 15

Doug Koestel 12
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#1 4 the people on 11/08/11 at 07:46 PM [Reply]
So who will David hire as city clerk ??
Sabrina is gone like the wind !! About time !!
#1.1 Elated on 11/08/11 at 10:24 PM [Reply]
He won't need to hire a new clerk. There is already an assistant City Clerk that has been doing the work for years. Same goes for Human Resource and Finance. These 3 overpaid, incompetent positions could be eliminated and let the half price paid assistants continue to do the jobs.
#2 2/3 elated... on 11/08/11 at 07:48 PM [Reply]
So, it looks like Chip is out, Maynard is in, and another old guy (dare I say with no new ideas?)has been elected to the Winder City Council. But, I can ease the pain of local politics by buying liquor on Sundays, so all was not lost in Election 2011.
#2.1 3 out of 4 elated... on 11/08/11 at 07:52 PM [Reply]
Oh! I forgot to kiss Chairman Danny and all of his no longer less-than-adequate-no-longer-to-be-successors "Goodbye!" No matter who they hire to be the county manager, he or she will be better educated and qualified than the litany of barely high school educated bozos we've been stuck with in this county for years.
#3 Anonymous on 11/08/11 at 08:04 PM [Reply]
Maybe they will hire Keith Lee as county manager.
#3.1 Robert Lanham on 11/08/11 at 08:09 PM [Reply]
Somehow, I believe Mr. Lee will be persona non grata on any search committee's list. We will do better.
#3.2 Anonymous on 11/08/11 at 08:12 PM [Reply]
Keith Lee. What a joke
#3.2.1 Anonymous on 11/08/11 at 08:43 PM [Reply]
Not big a joke as Cooley. 39 votes!
#4 Anonymous on 11/08/11 at 08:45 PM [Reply]
Now, Mr Thompson, perhaps you'll keep your hands off the vowed list in the future, yes?
#5 Anonymous on 11/08/11 at 09:14 PM [Reply]
Winder continues to elect a city councilman who lives in Athens. It's funny really and shows how the Good Old Boy System continues to thrive.
#5.1 Anonymous on 11/08/11 at 11:18 PM [Reply]
Better to elect someone who lives in Athens, Greece than a hot-headed kook. That gadfly would've dominated the council, tying everything in knots and making a spectacle of himself at every opportunity. I mean, the guy thinks he's going to argue his own case before the state Supreme Court. Milledgeville would be a more appropriate destination for him.
#6 Supersize on 11/08/11 at 10:32 PM [Reply]
Hey Chip and Sabrina. Hope you been practicing for your new job. "would you like fries with that order"
#7 Tammy on 11/08/11 at 11:35 PM [Reply]
For the first time in a long time I think the viters of Winder (and Barrow) voted to get things right. This is the first election where people who needed to go were sent packing or told their power would be taken away. I think the new Mayor and Council of Winder will work together great. Congrats David, Charlie, Larry and Travis. We need each of you
#7.1 Winder Merchant on 11/09/11 at 03:51 AM [Reply]
Can I sell beer this Sunday?If not,then When ? Customers will begin to ask today .................
#7.1.1 AnonieMoose on 11/09/11 at 06:09 AM [Reply]
Awesome. Go to church, pick up liquor and beer, go home, watch football, head back to church for Sunday evening services, and pick up another 6 for the ride home. Life is great.
#7.1.1.1 DuWayne R. Anderson on 11/09/11 at 06:47 AM [Reply]
Let's not kid ourselves about why this passed. The answer is tax dollar revenue from the sales of these products to help offset current budget deficits. No one was screaming about not being able to buy alcohol on Sunday, because there is plenty of alcohol for sale on Friday and Saturday night, for anyone who wants to make a purchase and watch football on Sunday. Your comment about drinking your purchase and watching football and going back to Sunday night Church, seems to indicate that you have a designated driver to take you back to church, otherwise you might be pulled over and forced to take a breath test for possible DUI......... What's next? Speed traps at entrances to Barrow Churches for evening services, or maybe new speed traps outside stores that sell alcohol on Sunday that didn't before.......... Look for the Barrow Court system to get a bit more busy on Monday mornings handling extra DUI cases......should be interesting at the very least....enjoy your Sunday football..........
DuWayne
#7.1.1.1.1 deedsy on 11/09/11 at 07:57 AM [Reply]
troll much buddy?! there's always one on every forum...

and actually, a lot of people have screaming about Sunday sales. A LOT. and for a long time.

as far as "extra DUI cases," I seriously doubt so. as the law was before, you were allowed to go out to a restaurant, get hammered and drive home.

logically, now people don't have to go out to a restaurant and endanger themselves or others trying to make it back home. they can go buy some beer and bring it home.

if anything, we will see a decrease in DUI's.
#7.1.1.1.1.1 DuWayne R. Anderson on 11/09/11 at 08:21 AM [Reply]
I don't care where you drink, if you drink and get behind the wheel of a car you are breaking the law, and endangering other folks who are on the road. Don't know of any law that says"go get hammered at a local restaurant and drive home with no penalty"! You may not get caught by police every time you do it, but understand that if you get caught you will get a DUI, and not get a free pass because you were at a restaurant!
Also, I don't think your argument would hold up against a Mother or Father who lost a family member to drunk a driver....but I guess you could give it a shot.... by the way, I wonder how you would feel if a member of your family was killed by someone who was getting "Hammered" at a restaurant and then got behind the wheel to drive home and watch some football...........It's always easy to make a case for drinking alcohol and driving home, until your family member is killed, then you start singing a different tune........don't take my word for it....ask a parent who has lost a child or family member to a drunk driver, what they think about drinking and driving.................
DuWayne
#7.1.1.1.1.1.1 deedsy on 11/09/11 at 09:46 AM [Reply]
dude, you just proved my point. thanks.
#7.1.1.1.2 Anonymous on 11/09/11 at 08:02 AM [Reply]
People don't drink less on Sunday because of alcohol not being sold on Sundays. No less people drive drunk on Sundays. Nor will people drink more or drive more now that this has passed. Welcome Barrow County and the state of Georgia out of the dark ages. The vote was to allow Sunday sells not Sunday drinking.
#7.1.1.1.3 Beth on 11/09/11 at 08:06 AM [Reply]
Mr. Anderson,
That is, without a doubt, the stupidest comment you have ever posted, and God knows you have posted alot of stupid ones in the past.
Look for a DECREASE in the number of DUI Cases! People that are going to drink alcohol no longer have to go to a bar, get drunk, and drive home. They are now free to go to the local store, buy a six-pack, 12-pack or whatever, bring it home and drink it, and NEVER get behind the wheel!

This is a small step for Barrow County in the right direction to catch up with the rest of the world, and move out of the 1800's.

I promise you will see a decrease in the number of alcohol related accidents and fatalities. THAT, in itself is enough reason for the change! just remember mr. DuWayne: That could be YOUR child or grandchild that the drunk driver hurts or kills.
#7.1.1.1.3.1 DuWayne R. Anderson on 11/09/11 at 08:42 AM [Reply]
Sorry you feel that way. You can't guarantee me or anyone else that a person who goes to a store to buy alcohol will 100% of the time wait till he or she gets home to get their first taste, and then never get back in their vehicle to drive somewhere else. You may not do it, but that doesn't mean someone else won't do it also. It would be interesting to get some stats on how many DUI stops in Barrow County included OPEN containers of alcohol found in the vehicle, and where the person(s) stopped was coming from and going to. Maybe this paper will do a little editorial digging and find out what the numbers really say about DUI stops in our county..........Without knowing the numbers, I would be willing to bet that the number is higher than you think.....
DuWayne
#7.1.1.1.3.1.1 nic on 11/09/11 at 08:51 AM [Reply]
people stock up on beer on saturday nights and drink it on sundays. whats the differences if they buy it sunday or saturday. if you are 21 its your right to buy alcohol on whatever day you want. the only reason this bill was passed was because sunday is gods day. what happend to seperation between church and state?
#7.1.1.1.3.1.2 deedsy on 11/09/11 at 10:19 AM [Reply]
your logic implies that drunk drivers only operate vehicles on sunday; as well as any fatal accidents or DUI's.

that as the laws stand before this vote there is be a greater risk of drunk driving and fatal accidents. the passing of this law will only help reduce the number of accidents and fatalities...
#8 AnonieMoose on 11/09/11 at 06:05 AM [Reply]
What's pathetic is the poor turnout. People gripe and complain, YET, sit at home on their sorry butts on Election Day. It's so sad that only a small percentage of the residents of Winder actually care about the community and how it operates.
#9 DuWayne R. Anderson on 11/09/11 at 06:23 AM [Reply]
Congratulations to all the Barrow county voters who chose the County Manager form of government over the current BOC Chairman system. Couple of big changes in store for the next BOC Chairman;
New $25K salary, and part time status,and no veto power, will narrow down the field of potential candidates, because there will no longer be a hefty salary, and big power base options.Commissioners will now be able to focus on promoting Barrow County for much needed growth opportunities, instead of trying to micro-manage individual departments.
Should be less friction and a stronger sense of unity at the BOC, as employees will be allowed to actually do their jobs without worrying about whose footsteps are coming around the corner.............
DuWayne
#10 Not a Dimes difference on 11/09/11 at 06:39 AM [Reply]
The BOC's job just got hard... No longer will just sitting on your perches making your biased rulings against the free market and for friends and family get you by to the next election... If you can't grow commerce what's the purpose paying for these deadwood place holders. I find it amazing that a Used Car Sales Man Chairman still can not find a way to sell this county.
#11 Anonymous on 11/09/11 at 06:41 AM [Reply]
Looks as if Yearwood Motors and Reality is back in business. Maybe his little "buddy" from Hartwell can help him get restarted.
#12 ok on 11/09/11 at 07:14 AM [Reply]
First I mus say I dont buy beer often sometimes i get some good steaks from publix and beer and steaks taste great together I only shop on Sundays cause sunday is the only day I dont work, I am glad people got tired of being told they couldnt buy beer to take to the house on sundays!
#13 Agree with #13 on 11/09/11 at 07:57 AM [Reply]
Congrats to David Maynard-It is YOUR turn to do the right thing. We know you are honest to a fault, but sometimes are easily intimidated. Don't let them BULLY you, YOU are the Mayor!

Larry Evans is a joke, he will only be concerned with putting money in HIS pocket-A Good Ole Boy.........

Charlie Eberhart-What a JOKE! Not even a resident of Barrow County-Another Good Ole Boy, or he thinks he is one of them(Truth is he will NEVER be a GOB, as that is an "exclusive club", and they do not tolerate Blacks)

Perry Barton-HA HA HA HA his wife Beth will be running Statham. He has NO backbone! LOL

OMG The City of Winder had the closest vote on Sunday alcohol sales! LOL LOL LOL With ALL the problems this county has, you rednecks are afraid of people being able to choose whether or not they want to purchase something on a particular day??????? ROFL

Oh Winder got a buy one get two free deal with Maynard's victory: Get ONE new Mayor, Get rid of TWO bad eggs!(Thompson and Wall)
#14 Yearwoods turn on 11/09/11 at 08:07 AM [Reply]
Now to set our sites on Yearwood. He must go come next years elections...So sick and tired...
#14.1 Anonymous on 11/09/11 at 08:10 AM [Reply]
Who will run??? I will vote for ANYONE to get Danny OUT!
#14.1.1 Anonymous on 11/09/11 at 08:28 AM [Reply]
Cooley v. Jack Legg: a clash of the titans!
#14.1.2 Think About It on 11/10/11 at 06:19 PM [Reply]
Isn't that what everyone said about Garrison?
Look where we are!!
#15 DuWayne R. Anderson on 11/09/11 at 09:39 AM [Reply]
Mr. Buffington,
Would your paper be willing to publish the # of DUI incidents that are handled by all law enforcement in Barrow County over the last 5 yrs? How many stops end in convictions, and how many stops included open containers of alcohol in the vehicles at the time of the stops by law enforcement? Also would be interested in the # of fatal accidents caused by drunk drivers as defined by GA laws in Barrow County.
Thank you for your consideration,
DuWayne
#15.1 deedsy on 11/09/11 at 10:06 AM [Reply]
I would actually love to see this data, myself.

you need more information than that though. you'd have to have the number as well as the days the infractions occurred. then you still would have to organize the data to make it relevant to our discussion. ie. was this person coming from a restaurant or their home? what time did the drinking occur; if you leave a restaurant sunday night drunk and get pulled over past midnight, then that would need to be considered a Sunday infraction and not a monday one. see?

it would be a monumental task and it would have to be done be a third party to ensure it's accuracy.
#15.1.1 DuWayne R. Anderson on 11/09/11 at 10:21 AM [Reply]
Can't think of a better third party than The Barrow Journal to did it up, can you?
DuWayne
#15.1.1.1 deedsy on 11/09/11 at 10:33 AM [Reply]
i guess not. i'm not sure if they have the time or the resources to conduct such a report.

also, i'm confused on your stance. you seem to imply that just because people are allowed to buy alcohol on sundays that those people are driving drunk. DUI's are an entirely seperate issue from Sunday Sales. it sounds like you are against any sort of alcohol consumption at all.
#15.2 Anonymous on 11/09/11 at 10:55 AM [Reply]
Does not matter what you think DOOOOWAYNE. It law was passed and until it is voted out there will be drinking and driving on Sunday. The paper publishing the facts for you DOES NOT stop the sales.

SHUT UP AND LIVE WITH IT until the next time it comes up for a vote. Seems more people think different than you do.
#15.2.1 Anonymous on 11/12/11 at 09:27 AM [Reply]
Just a wee bit cranky are we?????
DuWayne
#15.2.1.1 Anonymous on 11/12/11 at 11:29 AM [Reply]
No I would just say tired of your crap!! Every city has a city idiot ... and your are Winders!
#15.3 Sheesh on 11/09/11 at 02:14 PM [Reply]
And while you're at it Mike, would you mind totaling up the hundreds of thousands of lost revenue our county has suffered as it's citizens went over the county line to purchase products? (not sure what else they bought besides alcohol)

Just think of all the Bibles we could have bought with all that money!
#15.3.1 Anonymous on 11/09/11 at 02:20 PM [Reply]
Just think of all the grammar books sots could buy if they didn't swill, guzzle, and gulp liquid poison. They might even learn the difference between "its" and "it's." No they wouldn't. Too much brain damage already.
#15.3.2 AnyMoose on 11/09/11 at 04:37 PM [Reply]
Because of @#$holes like you, I voted NO on the Sunday sales.
#15.3.2.1 Sheesh on 11/11/11 at 12:11 PM [Reply]
I am so happy you disapprove.
#15.4 Hugo on 11/10/11 at 10:22 PM [Reply]
When I was working the streets as a police officer, I nailed most of my DUIs on Sunday mornings, usually after 8:00 AM. Usually people who woke up where ever they crashed on Saturday night and thought they were sober enough to drive home. Allowing people to buy alcohol on Sunday wont change the DUI rate one way or the other.
#16 TickedOff on 11/09/11 at 10:36 AM [Reply]
The more things change the more they stay the same. Heres a real recap of the vote.

Eberhardt v. Cooley - Eberhardt aint a citizen we all know it, hes got color and longevity on his side. Cooley was pathetic. 39 votes? really? Winner- Eberhardt. Nothing changes.

Evans v. Bolt - Chalk another one up for a good ole boy. Actually Larry is a good person.
Not very effective in government but then no one in Winder has been in 30 years. Winner- Evans. Nothing Changes.

Maynard v. Thompson- Closer than everyone predicted. Chip would have won had he not had the "voter list" blunder. Winner- Maynard.
Gotta give this one a little time to see if David stands on his own, or gets infected with that GOB disease and lets Jerry in the game.
Nothing changes. (But it might, Im pulling for you David.)

County manager v. Chairman- The ax has fallen on ole Danny. Everyones happy till a good ole boy gets the county manager job. he'll be jerked around like a puppet by the same group of Good Ole Commissioners. Onlt thing that changes is you don't get to vote him in or out.
Nothing Changes.

Sunday Sales- The drunks get drunker only differnce is we make a little more revenue on them. Look for AYP scores to dip even lower in the school system and pay attention on the roads on Sunday. Nothing Changes.

Duwayne still posts in his politically correct fashion and Jack Legg will still entertain us with an occasional injection from Beth, Odins, and myself. Mr . Buffington and the journal will continue to keep us posted and try to contain us. NOTHING CHANGES.

Welcome to Barrow County.
#16.1 Anonymous on 11/09/11 at 04:48 PM [Reply]
Ok I see what your saying. All but the AYP part, are you to say that students in Barrow county schools are of age to buy alcohol and can now go out and buy it before school on Sundays. What does AYP and Sunday sale have to do with each other.
#17 deedsy on 11/09/11 at 10:46 AM [Reply]
This is in reply to various comments above:

I love how just because someone drinks a beer they are automatically considered an alcoholic and a drunk driver. I'm not quite sure how you can make that logical jump and then expect to be taken serious.
#18 Cry,Cry on 11/09/11 at 12:25 PM [Reply]
Funny how everyone puts down those in change. I have not seen one person try to help. If you have an answer to a problem why not tell those in charge.Why not try to help instead of knocking everyone down? I can tell you why, it takes time and effort to find an answer to a problem.It takes little time and no effort to complain.
#19 Todd Saxton on 11/16/11 at 12:51 PM [Reply]
I will be running for Barrow County Chair 2012 and will represent this county at a State Level focusing on jobs and Economic Growth. I am a Winder native, spent 22 years here and 22 years in Oklahoma working with the State Career Tech system consulting and training over 140 diverse industries. I have extensive experience working with city and county government leadership representatives. I have moved back to Winder 18 months ago and am here to #1, take care of my parents, #2, change perception regarding our beloved community. Why Not Barrow? If elected, we will be back.

Feel free to contact me via my website.

Todd Saxton
#19.1 Save us on 11/16/11 at 01:42 PM [Reply]
The last thing we need is someone looking to promote his own consulting business to companies and governments in the area. Todd you spend most of your time doing consulting work out of town and out of state.
We had problems with a chairman that sold real estate. You would just be selling your own consulting services.
Sorry, that won't cut it.
#19.1.1 Jack Legg on 11/17/11 at 02:54 PM [Reply]
Todd, owing soley to the fact that we went to school together, and it seems like you were one of our class officers(cant exactly remember). I will offer you a position in my administration after I am the next commision chairman.I think together with the right mix of old winder and some new blood that we can make a difference for the future.
get a leg up in 2012.
#20 KDOG316 on 11/16/11 at 01:44 PM [Reply]
Question for Mr. Saxton,

Republican or Democrat? Please do not say it doesn't matter because if does. Republican you have a chance, Democrat do not waste your money.
#20.1 DuWayne R. Anderson on 11/18/11 at 06:52 AM [Reply]
I would agree with your post. Since the salary has been cut to $25K, and no veto power over the BOC vote, many who were considering running for BOC chair may now be reconsidering that decision.
It will be difficult to find a candidate who will actually focus on controlled county growth to regenerate tax dollars to repair the damage that has been done by the Recession and the Obama administration's failed fiscal and economic political Socialist programs. Barrow is a strong Republican based county, and I see no reason to believe that will change in the near future...........
DuWayne
#21 J.B. Moore on 11/18/11 at 07:23 AM [Reply]
DuWayne I have to disagree with the level of diffIculty in finding a candidate who actually focus on the best interest of the county. I have lived in Barrow County for most of my life and have watched in flourish and watched it fail, and I have had enough. I am no politician, but I do own a business and I work in government, and I plan to run for district 1 commissioner. I have no personal agenda, except to make Barrow the most appealing place in metro atlanta to live. I urge everyone to share their opinions and run if they wish to do so. Anyone can find me on Facebook under J.B. (Brandon) Moore for Barrow County Commission.
#21.1 DuWayne R. Anderson on 11/18/11 at 07:28 AM [Reply]
Although I reside in Dist. 2, I would be interested in hearing about your platform ideas, and appreciate your willingness to run for public office in Barrow County.........
DuWayne
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