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Susan Norman

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Thursday, September 8. 2011

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One of the three candidates who qualified to compete for this year's open at-large seat on the Winder City Council has dropped out after learning that because his wife holds a city-issued Special Event Facility License for her business, he cannot hold an elective office in Winder.

John Perkins, an owner of Adamson and Perkins Appraisal Services Inc. on Church Street, said the city clerk notified him of the code provision, and he talked to city attorney John Stell, who informed him of some steps he could take in order to legally hold office.

But Perkins said he and his wife Lee, who is the sole owner of the Constance Manor event venue, decided not to take those steps.

The recently adopted article in the code about licenses for special-event facilities regulates the serving of alcohol. That article states: "It shall be unlawful for any elected or full-time paid appointed official or employee of the city or his or her spouse to hold any license under this article.”

Perkins said he is disappointed that he cannot hold elective office in Winder.

"It's discouraging, but at the end of the day, after discussing it with my wife, we are not willing to do some of the things required to make me eligible at this time," he said.

Perkins’ withdrawal leaves two candidates in the race for the at-large seat of David Maynard, who is running instead for mayor.

The two remaining candidates are Tim Bolt, the owner of Master Tech Auto on East Candler Street, and Larry Evans, the owner of Evans Jewell Box.

The election is Nov. 8.

To read the full story, pick up the Sept. 14 edition of the Barrow Journal.

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#1 Jack Legg on 09/08/11 at 12:10 PM [Reply]

wait a minute. are they saying that because his wifes business has a license from the city to sell liquor that he cannot hold office in the city? Do you realise that disqualifies many many business owners from being in public office ?
I am personaly against the sale of alcohol and will always vote against it when given the opportunity, but that is beside the point.
It is morally wrong to have a law like this, morally reprehensible for such a law to exist and should be challanged in court, if not by perkins then maybe some other bootlegger will step up.
The entire city council needs to be voted out along with the mayor for having a law that restricts the rights of the people.

#1.1 Not a Dimes difference on 09/08/11 at 01:21 PM [Reply]

Welcome to the Social Political party, both the Republican and Democrat social parties will use the government's power and taxes to fund their own social agendas no matter what it cost... If they run out of money they can have their lawyers (that you paid for) find a way to get more money (taxes) out those patsies (tax payers)

#1.1.1 Anonymous on 09/08/11 at 05:22 PM [Reply]

My god what BullSh**! Cry baby! You have to be a liberal? There are huge differences between the parties now. That is what the stale mate is about dummy!

#1.1.1.1 Tea Party Member on 09/08/11 at 06:28 PM [Reply]

No actually there is no difference between a Barrow County Republican and a Barrow County Democrat. How many democrats are members of the republican party just so they can run and hold office?

So I'm with a dimes difference of this one.

#1.1.1.1.1 Anonymous on 09/08/11 at 06:33 PM [Reply]

Then you are a lost child just like the other liberal. But go ahead and stick your head in the sand and maybe you want hear the difference either. Or do you want to? There is one!!!

#2 Good Ole Boy on 09/08/11 at 12:52 PM [Reply]

Legg Up, you are becoming another DOOOOOOWAYANE. You have an answer and comment for everthing. You must be exactly like DOOOOWAYNE; a jobless know it all with nothing else to do. Obviously you are trying to get elected, someone has to be advising you to get a job and off here.

#2.1 Jack Legg on 09/08/11 at 01:41 PM [Reply]

Your dang right you dumbass I figure if I dont say what the truth is then idiots like you will get on here and post about their own rear ends and mislead the sheeple. The main difference between me and duh -wayne is that he is an iodiot who doesnt know anything , while very clearly I am spot on with each post.and I do have a job, its keeping dumbasses like you in check.

#2.1.1 here we go again on 09/08/11 at 02:08 PM [Reply]

JL, toooo Baaaaad....you lose again!

#2.2 Anonymous on 09/08/11 at 05:26 PM [Reply]

GOB I agree with you ... jack legg doesn't have a clue. He is just like DOOOOOOWayne like you said.

#3 Sad on 09/08/11 at 01:12 PM [Reply]

That's too bad. He seemed like a good candidate bringing some new ideas and vision to the race.

#4 Phil on 09/08/11 at 07:06 PM [Reply]

Does this mean that a used car salesman, realtor owner, restaurant owner, grocery store owner or car wash owner that holds a business license can’t not run for office in Winder?

If you look at this very seriously … it might be a good law. This means the council members will not have a business purpose for running for the position.

It works for me. And I really don’t care if you agree with me or not. So keep your negative remarks to yourself unless you have a better idea …

#4.1 Jack Legg on 09/08/11 at 07:19 PM [Reply]

No it means that the smartest people dont get to run for office. The smartest idea would be to let anyone run for office who meets residency requiremnets and is not a jailbird.The voters can then decide between the best candidates, so why dont you keep you phony positive comments . seriously? how can this be a good law.

#4.1.1 Phil on 09/08/11 at 07:47 PM [Reply]

Jack I don’t agree with you. I not calling you names or discussing your ancestry and I would appreciate you not do it to me. I try to do what I think is right in life. I believe in my Lord Jesus Christ. I say I am sorry and I say yes sir, yes ma’am and thank you.

I believe the council persons should be from the working Joe class ... not the rich and greedy few. There are JUST as many smart people from the working class as are the rich or business owners. Being rich or owning a business does not afford someone being smart or do the right thing for the voters while in office. I want someone to represent me and not their own agenda. That is your and my taxes they are spending.

Thanks
Phil

#4.1.1.1 Bill on 09/08/11 at 08:47 PM [Reply]

Phil, if they were smart intelligent people then they wouldn't be in the working class.

#4.1.1.1.1 Phil on 09/08/11 at 08:52 PM [Reply]

Semantics … Bill.

#4.1.2 Anonymous on 09/08/11 at 08:41 PM [Reply]

I agree with Phil, Jack. There are smart people that don't own a business in Barrow County. I have a degrees in Electrical Engineering, Electronic Design and Industrial Engineering. I leave Winder every morning at 5:30am going to Atlanta to work and don't get home till about 7pm. I am a fairly smart individual and would love to be on the council but just don't have the time to do the job correctly. There are lots of other people in my position all over Winder. Not only business owners or people that does business with the city are the only smart ones. They just have the time and or live close that does have the time to serve the job. So Jack please give others in the county some respect.

#4.1.2.1 Jack Legg on 09/09/11 at 08:26 AM [Reply]

I think you may have missed my point.my point is that someone should not be disqualified from running for office because they have a business license in that city or town.
This law probably came about sometime in the past because of abuse i.e. someone probably voted for something on council that would have benefitted them personaly instead of abstaining from the vote.
Instead of dealing with that person they put in a blanket policy(law)...deal with the problem dont create another problem down the road by some B.S. law like this.
There is no legitimate reason to deny citizens their right to run for public office in a free election, only if you are trying to narrow the field.
The last poster said he was an electrical engineer who works out of town and couldnt devote the time necessary for a post on the council,probably a wise decesion.That is no reason though to keep someone else out of the process who does have time to devote.

I dont know perkins but he should have had a fair chance at the position and to let the voters decide whether he should be in office not let some lawyer decide.

#4.1.2.2 northavetradeschool on 09/09/11 at 09:26 AM [Reply]

Did they teach subject verb agreement where you got all those degrees? It's hard to take you seriously with all those grammatical errors.

#4.1.2.2.1 Anonymous on 09/09/11 at 10:49 AM [Reply]

I don't care whether you believe me or not. It was not written just for you ... fool!

#4.1.2.2.2 Anonymous on 09/09/11 at 04:17 PM [Reply]

blah, blah, blah, blah. Get any ideas smart guy that will work? You must live a sad life. Little people like you that correct spelling and grammar mistakes have no ideas so you have to post something negative just so you will have something to say.

#4.1.2.2.2.1 northavetradeschool on 09/09/11 at 06:51 PM [Reply]

I just thought it ironic that someone claiming to be so intelligent would make such a mistake. I wasn’t bragging about how many degrees I have and how intelligent I am. When you do that you better dot all your “i”s and lower case “j”s (yes it gets one too but everyone seems to forget about the “j”) and cross all your “t”s.

#4.1.2.2.2.1.1 Don on 09/10/11 at 12:56 PM [Reply]

That is because you don't have a degree and probably aren't smart. Still complaining and posting negative things instead of having an idea that might help our county or city.

#5 Common sense on 09/09/11 at 10:54 AM [Reply]

"unlawful" bull $hit !! Losing out on a common sense kind of guy that would correct some of these laws.

#6 knowing on 09/09/11 at 07:06 PM [Reply]

Has anyone noticed the mess we are inf from the City, county and now the BOE and Creel. Elections cannot come fast enough. We just need to make sure to get people registered.

#7 Almost a Genius on 10/02/11 at 02:22 PM [Reply]

With some of these asinine remarks no wonder America is in such bad shape. It scares the hell out of me thinking about you being in a voting booth.

#7.1 If ya think this is bad on 10/02/11 at 02:37 PM [Reply]

If ya thinks these are bad to the BCSO new release

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