Apartment complex coming to Hwy. 316

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An Atlanta developer is planning to break ground within 10 days on a 72-unit apartment complex for low-income residents in Barrow County.

And the Barrow County Board of Commissioners on Tuesday night voted unanimously to approve a resolution to help the same developer, MHL Inc., obtain federal or state tax credits for an additional 72 units that would be constructed a year from now.

The 144-unit Farmington Hills Apartment complex is to be built in two phases just south of Hwy. 316 off Haymon-Morris Road between Haymon Drive and Carl-Bethlehem Road. It is just over a mile from the Barrow Crossing shopping center and in the Apalachee school cluster.

The two-story apartments are for families with annual household incomes of $21,600 to $38,800, according to a 2010 market study for the development.

The project would not offer rent subsidies, but renters with individual housing vouchers would be eligible to use them at the complex, according to Kevin Buckner, president of MHL Inc.

For the full story, see the May 25 issue of the Barrow Journal.

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#1 Fortitude on 05/26/11 at 06:44 AM [Reply]

What! are you kidding us BOC ? the last thing Barrow needs is a ghetto and not to mention is the develper going to add space at the schools which will be flooded with childre ? hummm lets see, that whole cluster was just re-zoned due to overcrowding and now you want to add apartments, more children and familys that could care less about our area. Not to mention give tax credits to the developer, then turn around and raise property taxes ! Everyone of you are going to be replaced

#2 Metro on 05/26/11 at 07:29 AM [Reply]

This is bad news for the schools in that area, it will be a ghetto full of unsupervised children with crack and meth addicted parents. Expect local crime to go up, especially things like violence and robbery...what a terrible idea. What next, Marta?

Is there any way to fight this?

#2.1 Another Longtime Citizen on 05/28/11 at 04:46 PM [Reply]

Yes, --There WAS A WAY, But that would have Required YOU & The OTHERS opposing this HIGH-DENSITY Housing to show up at the RE-ZONING Hearing that is typically held when Private Property Owners want to change their ZONING from farm land or residential to a HIGH-DENSITY Zoning. The Planning Board and County will approve or deny requests based on many factor including impact on traffic, schools and PUBLIC INPUT. (You would need to make legitimate points, not just I don’t like it)

Posting your Complaints after the fact on one of the Newspaper Websites after it is done won’t get it. You have to get involved instead of just complaining.

If you don’t like the current leaders, we have elections’, VOTE THEM OUT, that is why those are held. Encourage someone respectable, honest, credible that Loves Barrow County (or Winder, Etc) that will be willing to SERVE FOR THE COMMUNITY (and not personal gain) to run for the office or you must select wisely, not just the popular person but someone who will serve and protect your community with their actions of Leadership.

It is up to US to make our City and County a better place, not just complain about it.

#2.1.1 Anonymous on 05/29/11 at 05:51 AM [Reply]

Citizens DID show up and oppose this. Again if memory serves me, the farmer stated that if they didn't rezone his land, he would simply add more chicken houses. The land was rezone BUT the score of the development was scaled back. This complex has been in the works for several years.

The BOC as usually when back AFTER all the people forgot about it and changed the scope back to what the developer asked for in the first place.

#3 Fortitude on 05/26/11 at 07:39 AM [Reply]

As citizens we should write each member and request that a public hearing be made possible. Also, we all can go and file with the elections office a repeal (impeachment) form and once enough signatures are collected, we can try to impeach each member of the board for various offenses. It is a long shot, but the BOC needs to know that to allow this to be built, given the lack of infrastructure (school capacity, roads/traffic), nature of the complex and then want to give the developer a tax break and at the same time increase property taxes, we as a whole will no longer stand for this

#4 lol on 05/26/11 at 07:45 AM [Reply]

Hey, just in time for the new movie complex.

#5 Fortitude on 05/26/11 at 07:54 AM [Reply]

yep, and to have your cars broken into while your inside.

#6 Anonymous on 05/26/11 at 09:23 AM [Reply]

As Yearwood has said, They are not accountable to anyone... After all if they want it, Why would they care about population density and increased demand for public services

#7 Anonymous on 05/26/11 at 09:56 AM [Reply]

This is outrageous!!! I just moved out of the Winder city limits to an area not far from this! I was trying to get away from all the crime that this type of housing usually brings! The BOC is going to mess up an otherwise nice area of town. This is totally unacceptable!

#8 Anonymous on 05/26/11 at 10:47 AM [Reply]

Thanks BOC, here comes the slums.

#8.1 Jack Legg on 05/26/11 at 11:03 AM [Reply]

and it will be named "Yearwood Downs"

#9 Anonymous on 05/26/11 at 12:54 PM [Reply]

Apartments increase population density WITHOUT increasing the property tax base proportionally.

It also increases the demand for services; the very same services the BOC are so willing to cut.

Knowing that we will have low income apartments coming soon, just how willing are you as citizens of Barrow to cut the sheriff's budget?

This is not to say all people who live in low income housing are criminals, but they are very transitional.

So to sum up what Yearwood and the board of buffoons have done for the county lately.

1) screw up their chance to reduce debt with HB240

2) increase transitional population density, thereby increasing the need for the very services they want to cut.

3) tell us we can expect a 48% tax increase

BOY OH BOY

I'd say impeach but by the time everything is say and done, it would cost the taxpayers and those fools will be voted out!

#10 What???? on 05/26/11 at 01:18 PM [Reply]

First they add low income housing, next they'll want to cut the budget for public safety.

#10.1 Anonymous on 05/30/11 at 10:23 PM [Reply]

Next? Where have you been these past few years?

#11 Just Sayin on 05/26/11 at 01:40 PM [Reply]

WEll, I don't think that all people who live in low income housing are criminals and not all of these people are the cause of all the crime. Some of the so called slum people have in the past been hard working citizens who have fallen on hard times. Don't be so quick to judge, who knows, some day it may be one of you living in low income housing....

#11.1 Fortitude on 05/26/11 at 09:31 PM [Reply]

Your right, cops and teachers fall within those income brackets. However, most low income families are there because the government pays them to be poor, so why should they want better, why should they instill better values in their children when they know the hard workers will pay them to live ? Im sorry, but the reality is they probably wont care about keeping the area clean, contribute to society, raise well behaved children and care about our community. Why should they, anytime they can put in for another free or reduced priced home and get it while the rest of us flip the bill

#12 Jim McNamara on 05/26/11 at 02:49 PM [Reply]

That location would appear to be the absolute worst you could imagine for "low income" housing in that there are no nearby services, no sidewalks, and a relatively narrow country road for access. The intersection of Haymon-Morris and Carl-Bethlehem is one of the county's worst. The article says it is just over a mile to Barrow Crossing, and thus is about a mile and a half from that chicken place across 316. How many kids will get bounced off their bicycles riding up and down those two lane road and crossing 316? How soon will we be expected to ante up more money to improve the roadways and intersections?

I think "low income" housing could better serve its residents by being established in areas where there are jobs - say the old hotel in Broad St in Winder, or near the intersection of Georgia and Midland in Winder, or perhaps behind the Lowes and WalMart complex in Oconee County.

I really don't think our elected officials are capable of reading our minds. Perhaps if more of us told them more often they'd begin to get the picture. I believe I'll send a note to them. How about the rest of you?

#13 Fortitude on 05/26/11 at 04:05 PM [Reply]

Did the BOC even ask for input regarding this ? I called a member of the BOE and asked him if the BOC called them and he said no ! So, the BOC is doing dealings that effect the entire community in the Yargo area and do not even ask what the BOE can do to handle the influx of children, this shows you how sneaky our commissioners are, time to get everyone of them out

#13.1 Anonymous on 05/26/11 at 08:11 PM [Reply]

If memory serves me correctly, when this 1st went before the BOC, the developer had to decrease the number of apartments and increase green space and single family homes. I'll have to go back and check the meeting agendas but I think the just gave him back the apartment units taken away when there was a crowd of anti support in the room.

Barrow County politics as usual. Same no one day and change it the minute the everyone turns their back

#14 Jonathan on 05/26/11 at 07:35 PM [Reply]

I gotta get outta here! Oh wait I can't, I'm 65000 + upside down on my mortgage!

How are these commissioners still in office? Anyone who doesn't have a basic understanding of politics should not be allowed to vote!

I work in atlanta, now I gotta deal with the ghetto when I get home too? Oh Jesus please help me!

#15 Anonymous on 05/26/11 at 10:17 PM [Reply]

This is just insane. Adding another low income house facility is doing nothing to help our county but doing everything to bring it down. In downtown Winder, we already have 3 housing units for low income families. We don't need another one. I can't even believe that citizens were not given the option to vote on this. As I can read from the previous comments, it would not have been approved by us, the citizens of Barrow County, the ones that this is going to effect. I'm willing to bet that NO county commissioner lives in this area or else this would have never been passed. I have lived in this area for my entire life, and now I'm supposed to feel safe? I'm sorry but no one is going to root me out of my spot. Let's fight this til the end people!

#15.1 Candice on 06/01/11 at 02:07 PM [Reply]

And some of these commissioners do live in the area. I am personally friends with them :) And they are wonderful people. You should get to know them personally before you blast them.

#16 anonie mouse on 05/27/11 at 07:29 AM [Reply]

Just how is this supposed to benefit Barrow County? The way I see it this only benefits the developer, as ususal. This is only going to worsen the traffic, over-load our schools and cost the tax payers more money.
Who exactly are they trying to attract to our county? First, they wanted to build more starter homes, even smaller than what we have an abundance of currently. Now they have approved a low income apartment complex. It makes no sense to me whatsoever! What is wrong with these people????

#17 MollyRose on 05/27/11 at 07:38 AM [Reply]

#*@$#% !!!!! Another reason to regret moving to one of the few nice areas of Barrow Co. What a joke. I NEVER tell anyone where I live - it has become an embarrassment and a joke to be from Winder-Barrow. Take a look at some of the politicial shenanigans broadcast on cable. Those politicians come across as illiterate hayseeds (my apology to hayseeds). Why can't we get some respectable honest and smart leaders for this county? Gwinnett County was like this 40 years ago...Winder has not only NOT improved and progressed---it has become worse and worse and worse as time goes by. It is laughable if it weren't so tragic. Why is a developer from "Atlanta" allowed to further ruin our county and overcrowd one of the two high schools we lay claim to! $$$$$$$$ people, with some of it, I am sure, going to the pockets of our hayseeds why we struggle with tax increases and dwindling to no services. Just what DO they do with the taxes we pay? I certainly receive no services from the county. SHEEESSSHHHH

#17.1 Um really on 06/20/11 at 10:06 AM [Reply]

From your post it looks like you are saying that Gwinnett county has better leaders....think again. Some commissioners in Gwinnett were just locked up for DUI, and one no longer even works for the county due to some criminal activity that he was finally indicted for...

#18 Former Kendall Park resident on 05/27/11 at 10:15 AM [Reply]

I am so glad to have moved away from that hell-hole of an area! They have toyed for years with putting apartments up around there

#19 Attila on 05/27/11 at 12:35 PM [Reply]

The time has come people, time to drag these politicians from their cushy jobs. Out into the streets for some public humiliation and retribution.
The time for the people to rise up and use force upon those who usurp our rights and freedoms.
The time is NOW

#20 Fortitude on 05/27/11 at 02:25 PM [Reply]

What would happen if everyone on here decided not to pay their property taxes ? After months of the county sending out notices and all, the county would go even broker than it is and then they will listed

#21 Dan on 05/27/11 at 03:21 PM [Reply]

Wow, that is great, the city of Winder is so full of Subsidized housing already, it is embarrassing to drive visiting family around town because its already everywhere. The 'Poverty' Rate for GA for 2 ppl is 21,400 / yr. It will only bring unmotivated people to the county, who are fine with dropping out of highschool and working minimum wage at a job with no responsibilities and thats fine. Crime will of course go up, as well as foot traffic along the roads. I am predicting more EMS calls for persons' struck by car. Property values are going to keep dropping with this Complex. Thank you for capping the value at 110k, and pushing it a lil' futher down. The BOC should do more marketing to better developers.

#22 Earp on 05/27/11 at 03:35 PM [Reply]

it is time to begin recall starting with the Chairman. He has little pride in Barrow County and does not hesitate to make us look like idiots. Low income housing is for people that don't care. Look at the places that are already built, Go inside and you will see dishes stacked in the sinks and roaches running rampant. RECALL NOW!!!

#22.1 Jack Legg on 05/27/11 at 08:36 PM [Reply]

The new Yearwood Downs low incomee housing project is a looser all the way around, The current commishes are so desperate that they are beginning to lash out at the citizenry by approving this sort of thing.
We need to band together and delay it until 2012 and then I think I can promise that it wont really happen,there will be too much "red tape" by then.A recall now would just be a waste of time and money.
Make the right decesion at the ballot box folks and most of our problems will cease.

#23 Another Longtime Citizen on 05/28/11 at 02:43 AM [Reply]

Well, everyone was just loving the Target shopping center complex there in south Winder, and everything NEW in Barrow county MUST GO THERE it appears, must be on 316. What Did You Think was going to happen?? Really...

Yea, we are trying to fix up Downtown, so no those can go where "Everything New Must Go, off 316" ---and we have enough in Downtown to fix already.
You all know that once the economy rebounds, that ALOT of more people will resume coming this way don't you, I mean you aren't in a fantasy where we get new businesses and retail but add no new residents are you? We were a top 5 fastest growing county in the state before the collapse.

#24 Hey Cede on 05/28/11 at 09:12 AM [Reply]

All of you people complaining about this must be communists. This transaction concerns PRIVATE property. You already have zoning laws to protect your comfortable little lives. Go ahead and try "recall" and other stupid tactics. You will lose, but you might make some money for shysters. It's un-American to oppose a sale of private property, to be used for a lawful purpose and made for the highest dollar. That's just good business. But because a mob doesn't "like" a sale, it should be rescinded; move to Russia!

#25 Sissy on 05/28/11 at 09:59 AM [Reply]

I see many of you must have never fallen on hard times and needed this type of housing. I am a single mother and work 2 jobs but still can't seem to make enough for an enormous rent that most landlords want. As a Christian, I have always been taught not to judge others. Just as the Rock Springs Apts they are income based and run back ground checks on their tenants. All I am asking is please don't be so quick to judge. Have a blessed day!

#25.1 Tommy Jefferson on 05/28/11 at 11:39 AM [Reply]

These complaining people are NIMBY idiots. They are also creatures who resent that somebody else had property to sell and will make a few bucks. Hey, folks, if you are so against this project, why don't you band together and buy it for your enlightened selves? Then, you can plant lollipop trees and build ice cream fountains. I sure would hate it if you were "forced" to live next to filthy worthless "poor" people.

#25.2 Anonymous on 05/31/11 at 02:24 PM [Reply]

GHETTO...Just what the school system needed.

Thanks Barrow County Government!

#26 Anonymous on 05/29/11 at 03:38 PM [Reply]

Great another ghetto.. we already have 2 now another.. and winder wonders why theres so many drugs! who can we write to to oppose this!

#27 Mikelee on 05/31/11 at 09:50 AM [Reply]

OH DEAR GOD!!! TIME TO MOVE!!! WTF IS WRONG WITH OUR GOVT OFFICIALS?

#28 Candice on 06/01/11 at 01:34 PM [Reply]

Well I just want to point how many of our elementary age children who are by far ghetto or on drugs or their parents are on drugs where one or maybe even both parents have lost their jobs are living homeless and the opportunity this will present for them to have an actual place to live....with a voucher. I know in County Line Elementary alone there were several children living homeless. These are children that sit next to your child in school everyday whose parents can not afford a place to live in any other place in Winder. Everyone maybe should walk in the shoes of some of these people...be jobless and homeless or have an annual household income of $20,000 and tell me that something like this wouldnt be beneficial in putting a roof over your head.

#28.1 Montgomery Burns on 06/01/11 at 03:18 PM [Reply]

I understand what you're saying. People obviously need a place to live and its great that in The US we take care of people that have fallen on hard times. BUT just building more low income dwellings is like putting a band-aid on a broken arm.

The vast majority of people that make above average earnings either travel to another county for work (that'd be me) or own one of the dinky businesses our town has to offer. There is no industry here. Nowhere for people who have fallen on hard times to go find a decent job. So they will remain living in the low income units.

I love this county. I was born and raised here and i want to see it grow the right way. Just because you don't make a lot of money does not make you a bad person. Anyone with half a brain knows that. But lets all be honest, low income housing brings a lot of crime with it. Its just a fact. Would you rather stay making $20,000 a year and be helped out by supplying you with cheap living or would you rather be given the opportunity to get a better job making more money so that you are able to offer your children better futures?

I wish the commisioners would look at the bigger picture instead of temporary fixes. And yes, i understand that its not as easy as i've just made it out to be.

#29 Tax payer on 06/01/11 at 03:04 PM [Reply]

[insert sarcasm] Yep all the poor, pitiful, little poor people. It not like it's their own fault 'cause they're poor right? They had an opportunity to get a free education but probably dropped out right???? Not their fault,right?? C'mon folks, they had no choice but buy that brand new tattoo instead of paying rent or getting them 26" rims instead of buying groceries. Or getting that cell phone or flat screen T.V. or cable T.V. instead of ensuring their family's basic needs are met. Who are we to tell anyone else that they probably shouldn't spend the rent money on drugs, cigs and booze. It's not like our tax dollars are used to fund their section 8 housing, EBT card or free medicaid health insurance.

Like it not folks, your poor choices have more to do with your finacial situation that society does. So stop expecting society to bail you out and look at the real reasons your poor.

#30 Anon on 06/01/11 at 04:14 PM [Reply]

I will repeat "tax payers" quote ... "Like it or not folks, your poor choices have more to do with your finacial situation that society does. So stop expecting society to bail you out and look at the real reasons your poor".

#31 Fortitude on 06/01/11 at 04:23 PM [Reply]

We all have fallen on hard times, but that's not what will move in, it's the ones who LIVE on our taxes and have no need to want better and would not know what to do if they did

#32 Justthinkin on 06/01/11 at 07:43 PM [Reply]

Instead of low income housing, it would be great to have some low-income "elderly" housing. For our older generations who are trying to live off of social security. Just a thought. I also know that not all low income families choose to be so and some are hard working single parents, but to be truthful about 75% of the apartments will be consumed with individuals that just want to collect their monthly check from the govt and let their kids run the streets. This in truth is going to bring house values down even more, increase crime (being honest), drugs, and definitely over crowd the schools.

#33 confused on 06/01/11 at 09:23 PM [Reply]

First of all we as citizens should start voting for people that care about our well being versus voting for someone just because they are of a particular political party. Second of all why not approve a gated apartment community for those of us of higher incomes and standards. Third of all this will just move all of the younger government housing recipients to this complex and out of the way of the city of Winder. Fourth of all there are more illegals receiving government assistance than citizens. Fifth, these people do not live for free. Yes the government pays a portion of the rent but the recepient has to pay the remainder. There is no more welfare checks, just section 8 assistance and food stamps. Apalachee will now really become Crapalachee

#33.1 Sacred Cow on 06/02/11 at 02:23 AM [Reply]

"Second," you have to have someone who wants to build a gated community (so effete snobs can feel protected, isolated and insulated from the real world).
If the construction satisfies the zoning parameters, then it is not within government's purview to dictate the form of the construction. Funny how Republicans are all for "limited" government and reduction in "wasteful" spending until it's something that gores their bloated ox.

#33.1.1 Mike M. a Tax Payer on 06/02/11 at 11:29 AM [Reply]

Your way off here. The question you should ask is; Why do people feel as if they should have to build a home in a gate community?

Answer; Crime plain and simple.

Do not envy or chastise me because I have the means to shelter and protect my family from the criminal element in todays society. It's shameful that you leftest liberals attempt to criminalize and penalize those who work hard for what they have. It has gotten to the point where those who work for their money is not entitled to keep it but those who refuse to work are entitled to the money earned by those who worked for it. Kinda backwards don't you think?

#33.1.1.1 Phi Beta Kappa on 06/02/11 at 04:17 PM [Reply]

The only thing backwards here is your writing skill. Or, I should say, the lack thereof.
"leftest"
"those who work . . . is not"

Stay in that gated enclave, rich boy; I don't want that ignorance to escape!

#33.1.1.1.1 MGJ on 06/02/11 at 04:45 PM [Reply]

Well lets hope mr/ms Phi Beta Bite Me lets hope you don't have to live there. Your education does not bring you anything special in life. You will still have to go out there fight and scratch for everything you get. Happy scratching.

#33.1.1.1.2 Mike M. on 06/02/11 at 08:51 PM [Reply]

Nobody likes a spell check nazi. But I do aplogize for my lack of proper english. Not tring to make light it of it or anything but I am blogging from my IPhone 4. Do you have an IPhone 4??? thought not, you better stick to that Ghetto Metro PCS phone, probably don't have a high enough credit score to get an account with a real cell phone company.

But enough with the insults. If your only argument back to me is to criticize my spelling then that tells me you have no argument and I'm right and I will now put on my victory hat and do my victory dance....... LOSER!!!!

#33.1.2 Odins Eye is that you? on 06/20/11 at 08:30 AM [Reply]

Hey did you change your NAME AGAIN. Not surprised.

#33.1.2.1 Odins Eye on 06/20/11 at 09:09 AM [Reply]

You are foolishly mistaken.
I have always and will continue to use the same moniker.

For the benefit of the obtuse

Odin (Old Norse Óðinn), the chief god of Norse mythology, was referred to by more than 200 names in the skaldic and Eddic traditions.

"Sacred Cow" not being one of them...but in Norse mythology sacred cow would be Auðumbla.

So your summation is incorrect.

#33.1.2.1.1 That explains a lot on 06/20/11 at 09:50 AM [Reply]

After seeing some of your posts, it does not surprise me that you worship the "chief god of Norse Mythology". Most of your posts are mythical.

#33.1.2.1.1.1 Odins Eye on 06/20/11 at 01:32 PM [Reply]

[For the benefit of the obtuse]

That means you there troll man.

#34 Anonymous on 06/06/11 at 10:34 PM [Reply]

I have mixed thoughts on the apartment complex. There are some really run down mobile homes that need to be torn down around here, and where will those people go, especially the children?? My sister in Florida, because of a nice low income apartment, was able to leave an abusive husband with her one year old child and be able to work and support her daughter on a very low income.. A lot of those low income/gov't. housing has guidelines on how the apartments must be kept, no junk laying outside, etc. etc. However, transportation would be an issue for these residents, schools would become overcrowded, and probable rise in crime.. We have been in Auburn for 17 years, if any of the 'bad' happens, we WILL move after our child graduates...

#35 I hate this idea on 06/20/11 at 07:19 AM [Reply]

I am very well informed of apartment complexes, low income housing, etc. It is a known fact whether you want to believe it or not that it attracts crime. I am not saying that all residents are bad. You have good and bad people in all aspects of society. This will only bring crime into the area, an area that is already feeling a increase in crime. Drugs, burglarys,robberys,person on person crimes, etc will be more frequent. The roads are not capable of supporting the traffic already, and now you want to add 144 units, and possiably 750 more people to the small area. I do no like the idea that we ahd no say in this, and that now property valus will drop even more so if you wanted to move out its now to late. Hopefully we can get together and stop this before it is to late.

#36 jennifer on 06/20/11 at 08:35 AM [Reply]

I grew up in apts and I went to school and I have two sisters that are doing well for them self's.My dad had a stroke and its all we could afford on his pension. Stop Hurting Everyone who Lives in apartment PLEASE>

#36.1 Fortitude on 06/20/11 at 08:54 AM [Reply]

People who live in apartments do not pay property tax, the complex pays as "single family" when you have multi families living in one unit, I know, I have seen it. As an "renter" you are not vested in the community, you send your children to school, use public safety services, community facilities all without paying for it and increasing the population more than the infrastructure can handle.
It is not a question of "bad people" in apartments, its the huge burden of having apartments and how many people it brings to a county that is already pretty much full for its infrastructure. Im glad you and your family turned out ok, however, with mass poeple living in tight spaces and with the schools and roads to capacity in the area, that is one of the main issues. If renters would be charged a "service fee" for lack of their payment to the county, maybe it would be ok, but when you can pack up and move every 6mos, why should any renter care about where they live, you have no investment.

#37 rac76 on 06/20/11 at 09:02 AM [Reply]

My husband and I lived in apartments for the first few years of our marriage since we were not ready for a house. So not everyone will be a bunch of losers, there could be UGA students, Lanier Tech students, young families that don't need the space or the headache of a house, etc. Since they are not built, we don't have a clue who will be living there. So let's not waste our time guessing. I rather have some really nice apartment complexes over dumpy looking little houses.

#38 Taxpayer on 06/20/11 at 12:41 PM [Reply]

To me it a shame that I for one was not informed of this information until now. It is also a shame that I am a hard working taxpaying citizen whom move out of the big city to provide a better life for my children. Show them the values of life and teach the morals and principals that I received as a child. I am not saying that every person does not need a place to live regardless of income. I am saying way would you place these apartments around four or five sub-divisions where the market has depreciated already due to the economy and caused hardship. Now they going to increase the level of crime and over populate our schools. Who the hell needs this stress.

#39 CitizenK on 06/21/11 at 10:46 AM [Reply]

PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS FALL BY THE WAYSIDE!

This is a ridiculous site for low income housing. No public transportation. No access to jobs. Schools already in decline.

WE DO NOT NEED THESE HOUSING UNITS!

There is sufficient rental housing and too many HUD and bankrupt homes in this county already!

I see lots of comments on the Barrow Jounal about Barrow becoming the next Gwinnett - I'm more afraid of Barrow becoming the next Clayton Co.

#40 Annoyed on 06/21/11 at 02:17 PM [Reply]

I really thought when me and my Husband moved to this area that it would be a great place to live and would be a wonderful place to raise our future children. I guess I was wrong, looks like I'll have to find somewhere else to live because there's no way I'll be living near slums, but my House won't sell because I don't think many people are interested in buying a home near low income housing, maybe I'll keep their low income dream going and rent to some low income people. I wish they would start building these at a better time though because all the people that will be putting their houses on the Market in that area won't be able to sell them because the Market is so bad. Also, I thought there was plenty of low income housing in downtown Winder so why do they need more? Are they just trying to turn Barrow County into one big slum? I guess they just want to lose all the good Middle and Upper class people and just have a county full of low class people. I just don't see how low income housing will fit into the Middle class community that is already there.

#41 CitizenK on 06/21/11 at 03:06 PM [Reply]

Can anyone offer a solution or plan of action to stop this project?

#42 fedUP on 06/28/11 at 09:03 PM [Reply]

I feel the need to thank Yearwood and his cronies for the upcoming (further)decrease in my property value AND the increase in my homeowner's insurance. This slick little deal is going to cost me and MANY others in more ways then than we can even imagine. I guess the days of letting my 8 year old play outside in my backyard,in what used to be a safe, decent community, are over. This wonderful haven for crime backs right up to my subdivision! Thanks BOC! There are elections coming and I sincerely hope the citizens of this county kick all of you to the curb!

#43 Anonymous on 06/30/12 at 08:15 PM [Reply]

Many of you high class people got to where you are by cheating and stealing. Let the truth be known.

#44 So Amazed on 08/24/12 at 10:30 AM [Reply]

I'm so ashamed at all of the negativity, people have different situations and different backgrounds, until you actually walk in their shoes, you'll never truly know why a person (s) are going through what they are going through. Ignorance is why you all think the apartments will bring only bad things, no one knows that for sure, you are sterotyping and judging people, with your racist thougts. My friend is moving here from a different state, she is a single mother working with two special needs kids, she's not on crack, she pays her bills, and takes good care of her kids, they're always dressed nice and well supervised! You can't go around blaming everyone for a set few and when I say set few I'm not specify a specific race of people, because I've seen all colored crack heads, dope addicts, unfit parents and plain jain wastes of space!

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