Five years and $450,000 later, the Granite Hotel has undergone only minor renovations since its acquisition by the City of Winder.
With the economy struggling and financing difficult to obtain, even the most interested of investors have been deterred from renovating the historic structure.
With the building continuing to decay, Winder officials are faced with additional costs to stabilize the building and prevent further deterioration until a suitable investor can be located.
According to city officials, the first priority is to put a new roof on the building and then renovate the main level so that the space can be leased. The upstairs will remain unfinished until a buyer can be found.
Winder Mayor Chip Thompson said time is of the essence.
“We’re in a position now where we’ll just have to wait and see what happens within the next year,” he said.
“We would like to have it renovated,” Thompson said. “We’re going to do everything we can to save it, but, in the end, we have to make some tough decisions.”
GLORY DAYS
Though crumbling now, the Granite Hotel was once an important part of the downtown landscape.
A home for some and temporary lodging for others, the hotel was once a gathering place for Winder residents.
Haase Arnold remembers those days. Arnold used to jerk sodas across the street from the Granite Hotel. He recalls spending time in the building.
“It was more like a boarding house than a hotel,” he said. “We had a lot of schoolteachers that lived there.”
Arnold recalls the days when the hotel had a dining room on the side of the building facing the courthouse and when the lobby was a good place to pass time.
“It was a good sized lobby,” Arnold said. “Being a teenager, I thought it was great to just sit around in the lobby over there and have somebody wait on you all the time.”
The lobby served not only as a place for visitors to check into the hotel, but also as a living room for those who lived in the building.
“It was full of rocking chairs and people would sit around playing bridge,” he said. “It was a really nice place. It was their home.”
Arnold said the building changed significantly during the forties and fifties. At various times, the Granite Hotel held a barber shop, restaurant and other retail shops on the first floor.
“Then it got so dilapidated, no one would stay there,” he said.
Over time, the building was abandoned and fell into ruin.
PLANS GONE AWRY
Slated for demolition, the hotel was saved after area residents campaigned to preserve the building for its historic significance. Built around 1900, the Granite Hotel is the last remaining granite hotel of its size in the state.
Though not renowned for its architecture or its inhabitants, the hotel is a symbol of Winder’s past and of its efforts to revitalize the downtown area.
After acquiring the hotel, the City of Winder partnered with New Urban Solutions to renovate the structure. Initial plans called for the building to be restored as a downtown residential space, a retail center or a combination of a hotel and retail center.
Despite committing more than $300,000, New Urban Solutions failed to find a suitable investor for the redevelopment project and walked away from its partnership with the city.
Mayor Thompson believes the previous administration should have condemned the hotel, but he supports efforts to save the hotel now that it belongs to the city.
“I don’t want to tear it down. However, if it comes to the point where we can’t find someone to help with this, it may become an option,” he said.
Even tearing the building down would be an expensive proposition for the city. Thompson estimates it would take over $200,000 to clear the property.
“That would be some very high priced green space,” he said.
Thompson hopes private investors will join the city’s efforts to save the hotel, but, if not, the city will be forced to move forward.
“If we can’t save it, we’ll do something nice and move on,” he said. “We have to look to the future. We’re not going to be able to save everything.”
SETTING AN EXAMPLE
Barrow County Preservation Society member Helen Person hopes the hotel will be spared.
A Winder native, Person is determined to improve the downtown area while preserving the city’s past.
“I would like for us to take a look at the buildings we have and celebrate the buildings that have made us unique,” she said. The Granite Hotel is just one of the buildings Person would like to see renovated.
During a recent tour of the Granite Hotel, Person was dismayed to see how badly the building has fared over the years.
“The roof was leaking, parts of the floor are missing and the mortar is in bad shape,” she said.
Though Person realizes the city is reluctant to invest any more money in the project, she feels that protecting the building will show the community that city leaders are serious about revitalizing downtown.
“Then you can turn around to these other building owners and tell them they have to do something with their property,” she said.
Thompson agrees. The mayor said it is difficult to tell other downtown property owners to maintain their buildings when the city owns what is considered by some to be nothing more than a dilapidated ruin.
A LOSING PROPOSITION
Even if an investor is found and the building renovated, Winder City Administrator Bob Beck said the city’s prospects for recouping its investment in the Granite Hotel are not good.
“We will not get the $450,000 back,” he said. “We have already written our investment down.”
According to Beck, the city currently has no prospective buyers or developers for the hotel. Beck said the city has applied for a grant from the State of Georgia. The grant money combined with revenue from the general fund would be used to begin renovations on the building.
If the grant funds do not materialize, the picture changes considerably.
“We’re in very, very tough times right now in terms of revenues and so forth,” he said. “Even in the best of times, our most difficult decisions are how to allocate limited resources.”
Beck explained resources are always limited whether in good times or bad. Beck said city leaders will have to decide if the money could be better spent elsewhere.
“The question becomes that if this is a million dollar project, is that the best way for the city to spend the million dollars,” he said. “Those are not easy decisions to make when you look at other things that could be done with a million dollars.”
Despite the mounting costs associated with ownership of the Granite Hotel, Beck said the city fully supports the efforts of the Barrow Preservation Society and is hopeful the building will be restored.
“When the dust settles, if we don’t renovate the Granite Hotel, it is going to set back our attempts to revitalize downtown Winder,” he said. “I think it is crucial to the future development of our downtown area.”
Why did Winder have an "out of town" contractor tearing up and replacing sidewalks for "certain" streets???
Why did Winder buy a TV station???
Why were raises given to some employees, while others were laid off???
Why do you have 3-4 trucks and 6-8 men at a site and only 1 working???
The priority of how money is spent needs to be for the benefit of Winder, not a select few.
Please keep the History of Winder ***********
While I'm at it - what's up with the Mayor's Walk?! That has to be the funniest thing I've ever seen (I've only lived here for 3 years). Someone please tell me that tax money was/is not spent to build or maintain that.
It no one can or will put up the money to make it into a functioning historic site (like the old jail), then it's better to knock it down and begin writing new history in the space.
There are plenty of cities with old trains, historic courthouses, and other artifacts from the past that manage to keep new generations from fleeing.
Do you really want Winder to be an "interesting to visit, but not to live in" city? With how proudly so many people speak of it, I doubt anyone wants it to become a tourist trap.
I think what most folks would describe as charming would be the streets lined with homes that appear just as they did many years ago, much like downtown Madison (as the other poster pointed out). I don't think Winder ever fit that description.
The only way the hotel can truly be renovated is if an investor can be found. But the building has to be stablized in order to have an investor even look at it.
The alternative, according to the article, is to tear down the building at the cost of 200,000 to provide the city with a very expensive open lot.
It's nice if you want to go camping or mountain bike riding, but not much else. And it's still miles away from just about everything.
I have lived here for about 50 years and I resent that you feel Winder has no history. Yes, Winder does need a place of entertainment for the young generation, but not a park to sit in to read and draw.
Most of the web left that sort of design back in the 90s, and for good reason.
Also take a look at these websites:
http://www.w3.org/WAI/
http://webdesign.about.com/od/webdesignbasics/u/webdesignbasics.htm
Also, it appears you have put some effort into it. If it were me, I would replace that photo of you and your family. It appears to be taken somewhere near the ocean. A nice photo taken on the Gazebo or at the train depot might be more fitting...
But what do I know...I'm just an ordinary winder resident.
Thanks for your comment, I hope i answered your questions.
Got to have the DOT on our side? We need them on our side to fix the streets and roads where they have been worn out by the traffic. Good luck. The DOT is cash strapped. I'm sure they will be glad to help you with your buggy ride idea. Especially when you mention it's not on state highways or right of ways.
Historic part of town? What streets are you referring to? Shield Street? North Fifth Avenue? Duke Street? Woodlawn Avenue? King Street? Buena Vista? What sites are you referring to that are in the city limits, but not “down town” where all the traffic is? Snodon village at Church street? You can look at a parking lot and a grave yard.
King street is very historic. The old Glennwood School was there. Ride your buggy through there now and you can watch crack deals and see gang bangers hanging out on the corners. Good luck with all that.
Thanks for the info. I know who is focusing on unrealistic dreams and has a misplaced sense of priorities. Oh, and when the city starts recruiting church groups to sing on Sunday afternoons, who is going to pay to defend the city in the lawsuit claiming government sanction of religious activities?
But what do I know…I’m just a voting citizen. I had rather my choices for city government be addressing more pressing issues such as retaining business, relieving traffic congestion, increasing public safety, lowering fire ratings, encouraging inter-governmental cooperation, and a host of other pertinent issues. But hey…good luck with that Saturday morning matinee…
About the DOT being strapped, what about your tax money you pay into the state? Well it is turned into Grant's that the city and county get about three time's a year. They are far from being strapped.
I would say that if you read this you will see that the horse and buggy rides in Savannah are on both state and gov highways.
Sir if you read the paper you will see that both county and Winder police department's are working together and boosting them left and right. When you try to cut back on your police department and county sheriff, you will have more and more problems. The city of winder has and will always go after these people.
Sir I think I said (I believe that the City will benefit from inviting local church chorus’ to sing in downtown Winder on Sunday afternoons.)I did not say anything like what you have implied. Please read the site over ok?(recruiting church groups to sing on Sunday afternoons, who is going to pay to defend the city in the lawsuit claiming government sanction of religious activities? I think if they pull a permit then it will be fine.
Sir as you can see the web site is called Future of Winder.
(retaining business) This is one of the biggest thing I have said in the past, as a downtown business owner, we need to support our business owners.
(relieving traffic congestion) Sir when the DOT will not work with your city because of the people that run your city, you have to make changes to have them on your side. Like try to work with them and not just stay negative all the time...as I see you are doing with my web site. You really should read it again Sir.
Don’s vision of downtown Winder and try reading this over also Sir. Don’s concerns/goals for Winder as City Councilman
But hey…good luck with that Saturday morning matinee…) As you can see this fell under Vision also Sir.
Keep this in mind Sir.... I will always keep the citizens first before making a vote if placed onto the seat of council member. I will never vote for a city tax at all. it seams to me that when a seat comes up for re-election that person holding the seat will say anything to keep it. I on the other hand will always be for the citizens and not for bit government. Vote for the right person Sir and good luck.
Thanks for your input. You can call me at anytime as my phone number has been placed on my web site. www.futureofwinder.com
I've seen plenty of successful businesspeople do absolutely horrendous jobs once they got elected into government. There's very little correlation between success in business and success in government.
Sir, as for the DOT sir, from my research, the Georgia DOT had budgetary shortfalls of $153.4 million and $168.5 million reported by the department for years 2008 and 2009, respectively, I would call that cash strapped. That type of budgetary shortfalls places projects already approved into jeopardy, let alone local jurisdictions seeking grant money.
Sir, again, I did read your website (incidentally, disabling right click does not prevent the visitor from copying content…). Sir, that’s where I came to the conclusion that your “visions” and dreams for Winder are unrealistic and focused in the wrong direction.
To wit:
“I believe that Horse and buggy rides on Friday and Saturday nights through downtown Winder’s historic district, can and will help educate our youth on how Winder was founded.”
Sir, again, you failed to answer my questions sir about which streets and sites you sir deemed notable enough to place on your horse and buggy ride route. Incidentally, Sir, do you expect the DOT to pay for the horse and buggy? Do you expect it to be subsidized by the city? A private party? Who’s going to clean up after the horses?
“I believe that hosting a dinner and movie night involving local restaurants and with a movie projected onto the side of a building or structure wall will enable our community to appreciate the downtown area and enjoy great food our restaurants provide.”
Sir, A novel idea. Where would you suggest we have it? The community center, perhaps? What building would you suggest we show it on? Is their adequate parking?
“I believe that having local bands (young and old) come together to show their talents for our local community will help resurrect our downtown area. This will bring more families to our downtown locations so that our business owners will have more exposure.”
Sir, now perhaps this idea isn’t so bad. We can finally use that outdoor amphitheater for something besides collecting dust.
“I believe that the City will benefit from inviting local church chorus’ to sing in downtown Winder on Sunday afternoons.”
Sir, here is where the lines between Church and State start to cross and you open the city up to frivolous lawsuits. Sir, Forget what you or I believe about state sanctioned religious activities, its best to avoid blurring the lines. Pull a permit? After being “invited” by the local government?
“I believe that hosting a jazz festival each year will bring our citizens together for an outstanding day of fun.”
Sir, what if the citizens don’t like jazz? Drive up and down Capitol Avenue and see if you hear any jazz. By the way, perhaps you could persuade Chips to bring back the annual Blues Festival. It was a successful event…
“I believe the City should team with local youth organizations to develop a Saturday morning matinee for our children.”
Ah, Sir, your Saturday morning matinee. You sure do like watching movies. Dinner and movie on Friday night, and another movie on Saturday morning. Sir, don’t thing this town needs an actual movie theater?
“I believe the City Council should reevaluate City ordinances that may restrict recreational businesses or activities for our youth.”
Sir, now this one I agree with, to a certain extent. Ordinances do need periodical visitation to determine their relevance. By the way sir, if you want to see why we have ordinances to regulate recreational businesses that cater to our “youth”, visit the 509 or the Lions club when they host one of their “dance parties”, aimed directly at our youth. While your there, see if you think any of the cliental is up for a nice buggy ride…
Now, for the stuff that matters…
“I Will use my vote as the voice of the people, to stop over-spending, to use your money wisely and to follow up to make sure that your tax dollars were used efficiently, in the correct manner, and without waste.”
Sir, they all say that. I believe “stop wasteful spending” was Yearwoods call to arms. What a mistake he was.
“I will work closely with other city and county officials to create a traffic flow pattern that would relieve traffic congestion in addition to directing more traffic to businesses located off Main Street.”
Sir, your suggesting one-way streets? How about repaving…
“I will work with local business owners and investors in assisting with grant programs to enhance the beautification of downtown Winder while maintaining the historic value.”
Sir, good luck with that. Giving parts of town a facelift is a good idea. Incidentally, what behind the scenes relationships will you have with these “investors”?
“I will implement community programs for both the young and old to bring the “Home-Town” feel back to the city.”
Sir, you are day dreaming again…focus!
“I will vigorously strive to attract business investments to relieve some of the tax burden borne by our residential community.”
We need a Chick-Fil-A here in town. Get one and you would get my vote.
Also, a movie theater would be good, but Winder should be looking to the future of digital distribution.
Working with content providers like Hulu and Netflix to provide a facility with several mini-theaters for small groups of people (friends, family) to view exactly what they want would be very forward-thinking, and provide the city with a new source of revenue.
People could get the theater experience with all the comforts of watching movies at home. That is why theaters are on the brink of extinction; the downsides are becoming too much as home theaters get cheaper and better.
Barrow County GHM 007-2 Courthouse in Winder [33°59.533N, 83°43,273W]
Battle of King's Tanyard GHM 007-3 Ga 211 about 5 miles northwest of Winder [34°02'18N, 83°46'29W]
Bethabra Baptist Church BCHS Old Thompson Mill Rd. near intersection with Ga 211 at the Mulberry River, west of Winder [34°03'52N, 83°47'05W]
Bethlehem United Methodist Church BCHS Behind new church on GA 11 just north of Bethlehem
Builder of the Nation GHM None Railroad Station, Winder [33°59'30N, 83°43'22W]
Concord Methodist Cemetery BCHS Ga 211 east of Church St, Winder [33°59'39N, 83°43'27W]
Fort Yargo GHM 007-1 On Ga 81 south of Winder at the city limit sign [33°57.489N, 83°44.840W]
Mrs. Charles B. Almond Barrow County History Museum at the corner of Athens St. and Woodlawn Ave. behind the old Barrow County courthouse, Winder [33.00279, -83.72196]
Perry-Rainey Institute BCHS 7th St at 6th Ave at Auburn Elementary School, Auburn [34°00'37N, 83°49'28W]
Rockwell Universalist Church BCHS On Ga 53 at Rockwell Church Rd 2.8 miles from junction of Ga. 53 and Ga. 11 north of Winder [34°02'07N, 83°42'51W]
Russell House BCHS US 29 Bus/Ga. 8 in Russell [33°58.668N, 83°42.252W]
Statham High School In Honor-Paul T. Barrett BCHS Broad St at the Elementary School, Statham [33°57'51N, 83°35'32W]
Statham House BCHS Broad St east of Jefferson St, Statham [33°57'55N, 83°35'42W]
The Stoneman Raid Battle of King's Tanyard GHM 007-4 Courthouse in Winder [33°59.528N, 83°43.287W]
William Pentecost Born Nov. 4, 1762-Died Jan. 27,BCHS Ga 82 NE of Winder, 4.1 miles from Ga 53, at Pentecost Methodist Church [33°59'48N, 83°38'55W]
Winder's Most Historical Spot BCHS Church St at Ga 211, Winder [33°59'40N, 83°43'31W]
If would appear that seven of them are scattered about the city and within the city limits...
Although the houses are nice, it will take more than nice houses to keep Winder from languishing. Most towns have nice, old houses.
Is there anything that sets Winder apart from the rest of the region?
Moderator, please do the right thing and contact me via the e-mail I've used in my comments from day one.
And hmdb.org is about as sparse as all the other sites I found.
We were told they didn't exist. This was 1994!
We came from a state, city, township where they actively worked at preserving and restoring not only homes of historical value but ALL turn of the century homes and many older homes.
It's sad to think people have so little regard toward the history of the place they live and it's especially sad that people who have lived here all their lives don't care. The fact that the people of Barrow County would just as soon tear it down and build new, speaks volumes about their total lack of concern at preserving the past for future generations.
When I read the history of the Granite Hotel, I think wow. Right now, it really doesn't look that bad, so until the money can be had to renovate it, leave it. I can envision some eateries, a few shops, upstairs can be office space. You have a beautiful building, and it can be turned into a beautiful unique building where people gather.
How much $$$ is that costing?
I think history should be preserved before we accomodate to certain people to have "their" sidewalks replaced.
Oh yea, why does it take 4-6 peple to do the job, when at least 2 are promped on a shovel watching the "1" working?